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  • KeithG
    Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 155

    How many practice rounds are you given?

    I started a thread here http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?p=7970336 because I was surprised that Deputy US Marshalls are given just 500 rounds per year for practice.

    I thought it was a low number for someone issued a service pistol. One reply suggested that 500 was generous compared to what some agencies provide.

    What's your experience? I'd also be interested in knowing what you think the "right" number is.

    Thanks for all that you do.

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  • #2
    hitman13
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 3793

    Originally posted by KeithG
    I started a thread here http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?p=7970336 because I was surprised that Deputy US Marshalls are given just 500 rounds per year for practice.

    I thought it was a low number for someone issued a service pistol. One reply suggested that 500 was generous compared to what some agencies provide.

    What's your experience? I'd also be interested in knowing what you think the "right" number is.

    Thanks for all that you do.

    Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk
    50

    We dont get any practice rounds, but we get 50 rounds for "prequal" once a year......

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    • #3
      hitman13
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 3793

      oh, and i think that we should be getting at least 150 a month....

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      • #4
        BigDogatPlay
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2007
        • 7362

        The "right" number varies widely, every agency seems to have it's own opinion, and is more often than not budget driven.

        500 rounds or ten boxes of 50. If part of that 500 rounds goes toward qualification, that's not a lot. If qualification and on duty ammo is not in that 500 rounds, it looks and feels better. Not all officers are as interested as they should be in maintaining proficiency with their firearms, so 500 rounds feels like something of an average per person figure that was liveable from a budgetary perspective.

        In my mind there is never enough ammo to train officers with. One place I worked a long, long time a go we shot 50 rounds for score twice a year, got one box of issue per year, and however much we practiced aside from that was on our own dime. That and four rounds through a shotgun once a year was about it. Thank goodness for inexpensive wadcutters, which we used to get for $90 per 1000 reloaded through a local supplier. I practiced on my own, a lot.

        If I was running a department these days and had the budget to support it, my officers would shoot their sidearms monthly at least 100 rounds in problem solving exercises and shoot the POST qualification course quarterly. I'd also have them on shotgun and rifle at least once per quarter. But that's just me. There are so many other perishable skills that need to be kept up on and only so much time and money.
        -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

        Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

        Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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        • #5
          vintagearms
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2009
          • 6841

          50 rounds every 90 days for POST qualifications. No practice rounds.

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          • #6
            Ron-Solo
            In Memoriam
            • Jan 2009
            • 8581

            LASD personnel can now go to the mobile ranges and shoot as much as you want. It used to be 30 rounds per month for qualification, but we only had to qualify every trimester. You could use all 120 rounds at a time to shoot multiple relays.

            If you go to the Biscailuz Center Range on your own time for shooting assistance, they will provide you with all the ammo within reason. Due to the budget, range personnel are often reassigned to patrol, custody, or courts to fill vacancies.
            LASD Retired
            1978-2011

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            • #7
              fullrearview
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2008
              • 9371

              It really depends on the budget and how much ammo we have in stock. Right now, it's not much.

              Some departments can get up to 100 per shift! That would awesome! I would be at the range everyday!
              "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest."~M.Twain~

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              • #8
                Notorious
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 4695

                quarterly quals (usually 30 rounds duty and 10 off duty)

                50 practice rounds a month at the range to be shot at the range
                I like guns

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                • #9
                  SVT-40
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 12894

                  As many as needed....

                  In fact I still get to shoot up as much dept ammo as I please even though I'm retired.
                  Poke'm with a stick!


                  Originally posted by fiddletown
                  What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                  • #10
                    cacop
                    Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 310

                    We used to have a limit of 50 rounds a month. we also used to do a lot more training with firearms. Since we are sitting on a pile of ammo and no training time the management of my department has lifted the 50 round limit as long as you are being supervised by a firearms instructor and you are doing a useful drill. No blasting ammo for the hell of it.

                    Ideally I would like to see 50-100 rounds every 2-4 weeks.

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                    • #11
                      IrishJoe3
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 3804

                      For me not nearly enough! I spend a lot of my own dime and time to practice and stay proficient. Some guys, unfortunately, can’t afford to or have no interest in doing so.
                      Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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                      • #12
                        Roddd
                        Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 348

                        50 per month for us

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                        • #13
                          Jack L
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 1721

                          I'm shocked after reading the replies. In my mind I thought LE would be allowed almost unlimited rounds to practice with. Are budgets really that tight? It’s kind of scary in a way being how accurate you may have to be in some situations and how few practice rounds some departments allow.

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                          • #14
                            Rico911
                            Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 232

                            My Dept does allow unlimited ammo at our ranges for practice. The dept used to sell practice ammo to sworn personel at dirt cheap prices. Of course we ruined that privilage by some hording ammo now we cant buy ammo.

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                            • #15
                              IrishJoe3
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 3804

                              Yes and I agree.
                              Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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