Announcung DUI Checkpoints....

[nine mil thrill]

am i the only only one that feels this way ?? wouldn't DUI checkpoints be more effective if they were NOT announced as to their location and time ??
i am also confused as to why, (sacramento), that the checkpoints are halted before 2 am ??
it seems to me, that having checkpoints in effect when the bars are dumping their drunks on the street would be far more effective ??

[Kinsel83]

That explains why are state has no common sense people. (Except Calgunners?)

[aznpg]

same thing down here in so-cal. westminster and garden grove announce their checkpoint times infront of city hall and everything. and its normally from like 6pm to like 10pm and thats it. pretty stupid, since thats the time people are starting to get drunk.

[Ron-Solo]

It is required. If you expect things to make sense in California, it will only make your head hurt.

[nine mil thrill]

...but is it "required" that the checkpoints be closed down before the bars close? that's like running the checkpoint from 12 noon until 4 pm ??

(at one time, i suspected that the early termination was to coincide with leo shift turnover....??)

[Cokebottle]

You'd be surprised how many DUI are picked up between noon and 8pm.

3-martini lunches, after work beers, a couple of stouts with dinner, had a few too many working on the car/yard/boat....

Most DUI are not scavenged from bar closures. They are at earlier times of the day when you don't think about how many intoxicated people there are on the road.

The difference at 2am is that when there are only 8 cars on the road, there is a high probability that 7 of those 8 are going to be over the limit, but at 2 in the afternoon, you've got way more than 7 OTL out there... you just have to weed them out from the 2,000 others who aren't.

[CSACANNONEER]

They are announced and stopped before 2am because, it's not really about stopping DDs. It's just about politics and the politicians are able to talk about how good a job they and the check points are doing.

[IrishPirate]

Your first mistake was assuming that anyone in Sacramento understands anything about how the world works outside their office.....

We have a saying in CAL FIRE: If it doesn't make sense, THAT makes sense...the state never does anything that really makes sense. When the plan is convoluted and backwards, you know the state is involved. When it goes smoothly and works like it should, we were left to our own devices.

I'm sure that can be said about most local gov't too

[yzErnie]

They are announced and stopped before 2am because, it's not really about stopping DDs. It's just about politics and the politicians are able to talk about how good a job they and the check points are doing.

AAAAAAAAnd, here we go.......

[cowboykenny]

AVOID THE 100 in full effect

[Cokebottle]

AAAAAAAAnd, here we go.......

Well....

Have to agree. You know the most effective DUI "pickup" is going to be the guys on the street keeping their eyes open for impaired drivers.

The newspapers usually report the stats from checkpoints, and it's usually something like 8 officers for 8 hours picked up 3 DUI's, 6 no license/insurance, and 3 for outstanding warrants or something like that.

Sure... it got 12 people off the road that should not have been there, but as a DUI preventor? Those who were smart enough to scout the checkpoints before going out drinking were 2 blocks away when they drove by.

[Notorious]

Politics... simple as that... it's about a public "WAR" against drunk driving so you have to publicize it all. Then when the checkpoints nab more unlicensed drivers than drunks, halt all checkpoints when activists protest your racist checkpoint for nabbing illegals who don't have licenses... when it was not the point in the first place... politicians then ban traffic enforcement and make up new policies that you can't tow cars....

Think it's too far fetched? Look at Maywood, Baldwin Park, and Los Angeles.

[yzErnie]

I certainly agree the effictiveness of the DUI checkpoints has decreased over the years. I do believe there is still a need to provide extra DUI patrols to apprehend these fools who cause so much destruction, injuries and even deaths in our communities.

That said, even under certain circumstances the DUI saturation patrols have to be advertised just like the checkpoints. I truly believe the good citizens of our communities want the checkpoints and saturation patrols to be conducted. I know I, as a citizen of my community, want the cops out there doing everything they can to keep my family and me safe while driving down the roadways.

[Jeepers]

DUI check points are for catching drunks?

i have seen many folks busted at these check points, but usually for suspended lic no insurance and such..

was also told by local LEO that they also must leave you a way around the check point, but have a car on the "way around" to check out those that bypass the check point ....

[nine mil thrill]

don't the officers that are actually on the street, have any input,(influence), or suggestions as to where and when the checkpoints are posted ?