Are DOJ attorneys consider LEO?

[Foriegn power]

i'm sure your friend knows what kind of authority he has, why would you even question him. I just don't get it.

[Spyder]

Why does no one ever seem to refer to 830.2 when talking about who is and is not a peace officer?

[JayCo]

Only DA Investigators are LE's, almost all of them were with an agency prior to their work with the DA's office IME.

[BigDogatPlay]

Why does no one ever seem to refer to 830.2 when talking about who is and is not a peace officer?

Well solely for the purposes of this discussion, it's not germane. The CADoJ people who are peace officers, and county DA investigators, are identified in 830.1 and no place else.

[john.t.singh]

they may not carry but they for sure can get CCW's no problemo...

[DSB]

they may not carry but they for sure can get CCW's no problemo...

Still depends on which county they are in. DDAs and Deputy AGs still have problems getting a LTC in counties that are not CCW/LTC friendly.

[bruce_ventura]

FFL will likely call DOJ if he claims exemption to any firearm laws. No big deal either way.


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[Spyder]

Well solely for the purposes of this discussion, it's not germane. The CADoJ people who are peace officers, and county DA investigators, are identified in 830.1 and no place else.

Fair enough. And who said anything about the Duetsch?

[BigDogatPlay]

Fair enough. And who said anything about the Duetsch?

Well played sir.....

[003]

"Are CADOJ attorneys afforded the same luxury (re: gun purchases) as police law enforcement? Are they considered LEOs? "

The most accurate answer is that some are and some aren't. See below

Excerpt from 830.1 PC

(b) The Attorney General and special agents and investigators of
the Department of Justice are peace officers, and those assistant
chiefs, deputy chiefs, chiefs, deputy directors, and division
directors designated as peace officers by the Attorney General are
peace officers. The authority of these peace officers extends to any
place in the state where a public offense has been committed or where
there is probable cause to believe one has been committed.

A number of the senior DOJ attorneys are Peace Officers. Not just thoses assigned to the bureau of investigations.

[Hunt]

DOJ attorneys are employed by Goldman Sachs so whatever special priviliges GS has negotiated should apply.

[5shot]

"Are CADOJ attorneys afforded the same luxury (re: gun purchases) as police law enforcement? Are they considered LEOs? "

The most accurate answer is that some are and some aren't. See below

Excerpt from 830.1 PC

(b) The Attorney General and special agents and investigators of
the Department of Justice are peace officers, and those assistant
chiefs, deputy chiefs, chiefs, deputy directors, and division
directors designated as peace officers by the Attorney General are
peace officers. The authority of these peace officers extends to any
place in the state where a public offense has been committed or where
there is probable cause to believe one has been committed.

A number of the senior DOJ attorneys are Peace Officers. Not just thoses assigned to the bureau of investigations.

assistant chiefs, deputy chiefs, chiefs, deputy directors, and division
directors are all peace officer positions, not attorney positions. Those are their supervisory ranks, just like Sgt's, Lt's, Capts, Commander's, asst. chief's, that are in police and sheriff's departments.

THE Attorney General is a peace officer because the California Constitution makes that position the chief law officer of the state. His deputy attorney generals and asst. attorney generals are not law enforcement officers. Like D.A's they are members of the Bar, and court officers, which is a totally different thing then being a "peace officer".

[TrailerparkTrash]

Do any of you remember Willie Williams when he was hired to replace outgoing LAPD cheif, Daryl Gates?

Willams couldn't even pass the State's BASIC P.O.S.T. written test(s), authorizing him to carry a weapon under 830.1 PC. It was the now deceased LA County Sheriff, Sherman Block that had to issue "Willie from Philly" a weapons permit! How EMBARRASSING!!!!

[Tiberius]

To my eye, PC 12125(b)(4) (quoted above) makes DAs roster exempt. However, I've seen gun stores refuse to honor it; the common belief seems to be that only LEOs are roster exempt. And that may have been the intent. But as written, sworn members of the DA's office are exempt. I'm not a DA, but I'm pretty sure DAs have to take an oath. Then again, that may not make them a "sworn member." But the statute doesn't say "sworn officer" - it says member.

If I ran a gun store I'd be just as cautious - California gun laws are a minefield.