Mini 14 w/high cap mags

[doublebuck]

Just wondering if i could have a high cap mag in my mini 14 in public range without getting in trouble since i'm leo? I can buy them but can i use them? I a mini is not a black rifle but all these laws i want to make.

[doublebuck]

I know a stock mini isn't a black rifle

[Spyder]

If the Mini 14 is otherwise legal for you to possess, and it does not have a fixed magazine, you can use magazines of greater than 10 rounds. Have fun!

[TrailerparkTrash]

Anybody (civilian or LEO) can possess AND use hicaps in this state provided the mags were possessed prior to the ban. Possession of then "currently owned" hicaps was "gradfathered." Also, LEO's may currently buy and possess all new hicap mags.

Now, you might very well possibly get some minimum waged "Range Nazi" that doesnt know the law and/or the particular range may have a "policy" that forbids the use of those mags. The range "policy" does NOT mean you are violating any law.

Also the laws says one may "borrow" hicaps from a person that has a legal right to possess them, as long as he is in close proximity with you at the range. In other words, a cop that has a hicap magazine at the range can allow you to shoot his gun. (explained in a brief "nut shell).

[FUBAR]

If you are LEO then you can legally own. If you legally own them, then you can legally use them.

[doublebuck]

Thanks, time to unload

[TrailerparkTrash]

If you are LEO then you can legally own. If you legally own them, then you can legally use them.

Not just LEO. If anybody possessed hicaps of a particular make before the law passed, that person is not grandfathered in and can legally keep and use them.

Obviously the OP didn't have any hicap mini-14 mags prior to the ban. However, not just LEO may possess/use hicaps in this state. There are the exceptions in that law.

[Notorious]

Anybody can use a legally possessed standard capacity magazine in a non-AW featured firearm, of which the factory stock Mini-14 and M1 Carbine come to mind as the most common examples.

I got a few 15 and 30 rounders for my M1 Carbine. Acquired the magazines recently, and no need to worry about the bullet button on that firearm.

[TrailerparkTrash]

Anybody can use a legally possessed standard capacity magazine in a non-AW featured firearm, of which the factory stock Mini-14 and M1 Carbine come to mind as the most common examples.

I got a few 15 and 30 rounders for my M1 Carbine. Acquired the magazines recently, and no need to worry about the bullet button on that firearm.

I'm not exactly understanding your post. Are you saying that if one DOES NOT own a legally possessed AW, then one may acquire a hicap magazine? You cited the mini-14 and M1 carbine because they do NOT have the evil features which would classify it as a AW. From what I'm reading in your post, if you "recently acquired" a 15 and 30 round mag (hicaps), I believe the law was broken by somebody.

The law states:

12020 (a)(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes
to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or
offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-
capacity magazine.

Nobody can sell, make, import, give or lend you those hicaps. Unless you already possessed them BEFORE the ban kicked in, the law was broken somehow. Unless you're telling us that you "found" them. The law doesn't say anything about "finding" those hicaps. Or, you're LEO, you can then purchase hicaps.

Look at the 10/22. It's not an "evil" rifle with the AW features on it. Yet in California, Ruger can NOT sell their 25 round mags for that gun here. Same goes with their Mini-14's and Mini-30's.

I don't know, am I missing something here with your post?

[Bobby Ricigliano]

LEO's should read and understand the AW flowchart. Not just for their own benefit, but for the sake of understanding California's confusing gun laws which they are tasked with enforcing fairly and competently.

[Notorious]

I bought the magazines legally under the exemptions allowed.

[kemasa]

Nobody can sell, make, import, give or lend you those hicaps. Unless you already possessed them BEFORE the ban kicked in, the law was broken somehow.

Incorrect. Read 12020(b).

[TrailerparkTrash]

I bought the magazines legally under the exemptions allowed.

I figured you did. Isn't it sad however that the laws here in Cali require a fricking flow chart!!!!!!????? Brilliant morons we have in Sacramento!

[Notorious]

I figured you did. Isn't it sad however that the laws here in Cali require a fricking flow chart!!!!!!????? Brilliant morons we have in Sacramento!

Yes, you mean the flowcharts that CalGuns had to make and then we have steal and use in the field because the state government can't supply us with anything that makes sense even though they are the ones who made up the laws?

No joke... we were given the website link to these flowcharts and some of the info here got printed out for us to use as references!

[TrailerparkTrash]

Incorrect. Read 12020(b).

You need to be more specific. First read post #8. With the LIMITED info provided in that post, tell me exactly which part of 12020 I was "incorrect" with. Section "(b)" breaks down into a ton of other subsections. Based solely on post #8, are you a mind reader? Post #8 starts out with the words: "Anybody can possess...". Indicating "civilians," and not just LEO's in that post.

Now i have a hunch about Notorious and him being legal etc... However the newb here reading that post and the way it was written, might get the wrong impression about the law. I was just trying to get clarification and Notorious did exactly that.

12020(b) doesnt allow just any "civilian" to "recently purchase" a hicap mag as was vagely IMPLIED in post #8.

It wasnt until later in this thread did the author of post #8 let out he fit one of those exemptions. He didnt specifically tell us which exemption he falls under with "RECENTLY acquired 15 & 30 rounders," but it doesnt really matter now.

Kemasa, Im just puzzled at your response to me. Am I reading that you have ESP or something? After reading how post #8 was worded, you could tell that he fit an exemption listed in the law?

Maybe you know hes possibly LEO (I dont know exactly 'cause it ain't non of my business). However, post #8 was NOT written in a way that would indicate hes possibly LE or fit ANY OTHER one of the exemptions in the law for that matter. In fact, its worded (unintentionally Im sure) like "anybody" can buy hicaps now IF the gun doesnt have any evil features on it. That's how I read it and that is why I mentioned it to begin with.

I must say to Notorious, ive read yer posts for a while and deep down inside I had a feeling you were exempt all along. To the newbie that hasnt read your posts in the past, it may have been not as clear to them. Thats why I mentioned my comment to begin with.