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  • ArtP88
    Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 413

    Gun Registration

    I'm simply curious if I have real point here or not, regarding gun registration in California. Proponents of registration I won't repeat. But I have another argument for not keeping a registry, which could be hotly debated.

    I'm pretty sure when the police are called to, or arrive on any scene they "run" the name of anyone they question and aside from normal information, about warrants and criminal records, if they are gun owners too, just how many guns have been DROS'd by the individual in question? They are privileged to know and do get that information. And that information causes them to act appropriately or differently, depending on your view, which is the question of this thread.

    That other information about criminal records and warrants comes from due process, however the DROS info doesn't and doesn't really say anything except how many times a particular subject has legally purchased a firearm in California.

    If there's one record of sale, LE might not get too excited. But what about if there's 18 records of sale? Is that not going to cause LE to perhaps make a SWAT call or to approach this subject as if he were already dangerous and threatening and perhaps put his life and property in undue risk if he made a false move to scratch his balls?

    You know what I'm saying.

    No matter how many times a person has been through the DROS shouldn't affect LE. LE might consider legal ownership a sign that an individual might be *cleaner* than some, or not. But to be swarmed by SWAT because of too many DROS's -- and this seems to be a pattern -- makes me ask you...

    What do you think?
    Last edited by ArtP88; 11-29-2011, 3:13 AM.
  • #2
    TRICKSTER
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2008
    • 12438

    I think you have fallen victim to FUD. I never ran a check for firearms unless it had something to do with the case or it was a warrant service situation and even at that, the only "registered" firearms are handguns or AW, so that won't tell you how many long guns the person may own. As far as number of guns registered to a person, a person can only use one at a time so why would I treat that any differently than ten or twenty. Unless it had something to do with the investigation, the number of firearms is irrelevant.
    As far as SWAT call out, that is based on the crime being investigated and the criminal history of the person, not whether or not they are a gun owner. Besides, most criminals do not obtain their guns legally so the guns that they have will not show up on a computer check.


    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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    • #3
      Roddd
      Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 348

      I've ran people for guns on occasion en route to a DV call but that doesn't really change my tactics. If I ran you and found out you had 20 guns, we'd probably BS for a while(assuming you're not a suspect in a crime). SWAT wouldn't be called out on an ordinary type radio call if you have a lot of guns.

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      • #4
        Ron-Solo
        In Memoriam
        • Jan 2009
        • 8581

        Yu have been the victim of misinformation. My old department, a SWAT response required a confirmed felony crime involving weapons, and a refusal of the suspect to surrender.
        LASD Retired
        1978-2011

        NRA Life Member
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        • #5
          ArtP88
          Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 413

          Guys, thanks for sharing your thoughts. After re-reading my post, I came off somewhat like I knew how LE behaves. To clarify, I was asking how law enforcement behaves and how they respond or prepare when gun registration information comes back.

          Thanks for setting me straight.

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          • #6
            Notorious
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 4695

            The previous posters gave all the pertinent info but I'll add my experience. Never ran AFS on anyone I met in the field. Doesn't give me any useful info. We only ran it in the course of an investigation to get what we need if it is related to the crime.

            If I tried calling SWAT just because of someone owning guns, they would come kick my butt personally for wasting their time.
            I like guns

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