,,,

[Foriegn power]

,,,,,

[Bob Hostetter]

yes to both

[Notorious]

Yes to both. But Y is "yellow" in the inland and "young" in the rest of socal... I found that out the hard way.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

I've gotten clowned a few times for mixing up my military and LEO phonetics on the radio....

[Notorious]

They've accepted young on the radio. My fto always said just say something, they'll figure it out. So, I have also said "richard" instead of “robert" among various other shenanigans.

Just don't start with the "november niner, grid, tango foxtrot, fire for effect" when the ptsd kicks in.

[jrwhitt]

Not an LEO, but rather a transplanted ex-Military Brit. Why do the LEO agencies remain on the old name based phoenitic alphabets rather than the NATO one? Really just curious.

I grinned when I read the last phrase quoted above - I now work in the computer industry and they use yet another phonetic alphabet but I regularly drop back into what I was trained to use under stress. I don't think I could ever NOT use the NATO one, especially under stress.

[Notorious]

Leos specifically stay with name based phonetics because we are NOT military. Americans are funny like that. We want our police local and non-militaristic, unlike other countries who have national police forces.

Bravo-6 Actual, expend all remaining rounds on my pos. It's my call. It's been a lovely fuxking war!

[TheExpertish]

I agree. It has more to do with public perception than anything.

[ThatsJustBadTaste]

AdamBoyCharlesDavidEdwardFrankGeorgeHenryIdaJohnKi ngLincolnMaryNoraOceanPaulQueenRobertSamTomUnionVi ctorWilliamX-rayYellowZebra


And remember Brn/blu brown hair blue eyes start from the head down good luck

[Notorious]

Also, there are no black eyes, only brown. The only black eyes are injuries.

You can also say xylophone, sally, volvo, among other letters. Try it for fun.

[jrwhitt]

Leos specifically stay with name based phonetics because we are NOT military. Americans are funny like that. We want our police local and non-militaristic, unlike other countries who have national police forces.

Bravo-6 Actual, expend all remaining rounds on my pos. It's my call. It's been a lovely fuxking war!

Thanks - makes sense on the perception.

[Unbeliever]

I have an acquaintance that's a Police Helicopter Pilot. It took him quite a while and a lot of practice not to mix up NATO/ICAO phonetics and Police phonetics when switching between ATC and Police frequencies. Both kinda get a "huh?" response on the radio when used wrong, though more police are familar with NATO/ICAO than pilots/ATC are with police.

"November seven tree fower Foxtrot Hotel inbound for landing, with Wiskey."
"Four Foxtrot Hotel, Make left traffic for 1-6 right. Is that a bottle of Jack?"

Oh, and in my recurrent incident command structure training (volunteer S&R), I get the impression that FEMA is trying to get everyone to drop 10 codes and use plain English.

--Carlos V.

[TheExpertish]

I already know of a few departments already doing that simply to eliminate confusion from laterals from other counties.

[Notorious]

Plain english had been tried for many years, decades even, on the air and in reports. Old habits die hard. We are making progress though.

[verapakill]

Plain english had been tried for many years, decades even, on the air and in reports. Old habits die hard. We are making progress though.

+1 Old habits really do die hard.