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  • bubbapug1
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2008
    • 7958

    As a LEO how do you view open carry?

    I know this is an irrelevant issue now, but as an LEO what do you think of open carry?

    Don't get me wrong, I love guns, I have a few, but I would think the presence of guns on peoples hips would cause a great amount of anxiety in the public in general, and would also present a lot of opportunities for situations to get hairy fast.

    Not to mention it would be tough to determine who is just carrying to protect themselves or make a 2A statement, and who is going to rob a bank.

    Let's not turn this into shouting match between the different views, but I am truly interested in what complexities open carry would bring into your daily job.
    I love America for the rights and freedoms we used to have.
  • #2
    Bobby Ricigliano
    Mit Gott und Mauser
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2011
    • 17439

    My only opinion on open carry is that it was born out of the frustration of the general public with the difficulty of obtaining LTC's and/or other general frustration with the continual governmental encroachment upon and dismissive attitude toward the 2A.

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    • #3
      Triad
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 1684

      It is what it is man. I don't really have an opinion one way or the other anymore.

      For whatever reason these threads get closed up pretty quick though

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      • #4
        TheExpertish
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 3451

        Originally posted by Caligunner71
        My only opinion on open carry is that it was born out of the frustration of the general public with the difficulty of obtaining LTC's and/or other general frustration with the continual governmental encroachment upon and dismissive attitude toward the 2A.
        I agree with this. The biggest problem with UOC was that the general public was not aware it was legal. Most people usually freak when they see a gun without a badge nearby. It gets old fast having calls come in with little details other than someone with a gun only to get there and find out it's a legal UOC. Kinda messes with the nerves and the patience.
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        • #5
          jeep7081
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 1534

          Originally posted by gadsdenarmory
          I agree with this. The biggest problem with UOC was that the general public was not aware it was legal. Most people usually freak when they see a gun without a badge nearby. It gets old fast having calls come in with little details other than someone with a gun only to get there and find out it's a legal UOC. Kinda messes with the nerves and the patience.
          Agree. I see both sides. I think the solution is when you feel the need to exercise your right. Place a call to local PD. Inform them your there.

          Funny thing is, on the way to the movies tonight, my wife and I were just talking about this.
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          • #6
            bubbapug1
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2008
            • 7958

            I agree Uoc was born out of frustration. It would be great to have more ccw, but that's not the issue or the question? The question was what effect it had when it happened, and a few have answered the question. Let's keep the thread centered on the question. If u have others questions or an agenda...please start your own thread.
            I love America for the rights and freedoms we used to have.

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            • #7
              Bobby Ricigliano
              Mit Gott und Mauser
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2011
              • 17439

              Originally posted by Rhythm of Life
              So is the dislike directed at the UOCers or the uninformed public that wasted your time to begin with?
              I never expressed nor do I have any dislike for UOC.

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              • #8
                Ron-Solo
                In Memoriam
                • Jan 2009
                • 8581

                Hey Rhythm, it's posts like your that get these things closed down. No need to be confrontational, the OP asked a good question, and you come in and kick it into the gutter.
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                • #9
                  Bobby Ricigliano
                  Mit Gott und Mauser
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 17439

                  Sometimes public opinion or perception smashes headlong into a completely legal act. My job would be to observe the rights of the UOC'ers and soothe the ruffled feathers of the public at large, all while maintaining proper tactics, decorum, and officer safety.

                  Not exactly an easy task, but that's what we signed up for. My personal opinions while handling situations like these are irrelevant and should not be part of the equation.

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                  • #10
                    Notorious
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 4695

                    I have no opinion of UOC. It is still a legal act for the next 2 months. Have at it.

                    My issue is with the segment of UOC'ers who make a point of being confrontational and trying to play gotcha with their video camera every second they are out. Dude, I really don't care. Your gun doesn't impress me. Just let me do my job and I am out. Spare me the pre-rehearsed speech about the Constitution and if you're being detained and if I am part of the evil triumvirate or if I want to buy girl scout cookies. I'm tired.

                    They got what they wanted though. They challenged society and the politicians fired back pretty fast. If they approached it differently and tried a softer approach with more public awareness and education, if they called the cops ahead of time, if they called the media ahead of time, if any organizations made more of a campaign on their behalf, who knows? Maybe it will still turn out the same, maybe not.

                    But I know the "it's my right and I ain't gotta explain jack" attitude is not endearing to anyone.
                    I like guns

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                    • #11
                      1-M-42
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 1232

                      +100^
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                      • #12
                        Samuelx
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1558

                        ditto here on ^^ +100

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                        • #13
                          fullrearview
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 9371

                          Another +100 gamer score!^^
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                          • #14
                            1911su16b870
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 7654

                            +1 well written Notorious.

                            We saw how the UOC in your face mindset won over the hearts and minds of the public...hopefully they learned something before they UOC long arms.

                            Sadly, UOCers do not realize how they messed up the RTKBA 2A for all of Californians.
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                            • #15
                              bubbapug1
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 7958

                              You mean your not part if the bildeberg world order??

                              I think I get the picture of how the movement got itself banned.
                              I love America for the rights and freedoms we used to have.

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