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  • pbchief2
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 522

    Sexual molestation question.

    Question is for law enforcement or those that have personal experience with the situations.


    Saturday night my nephew called me a bit upset, saying he needed to talk to me. I said go ahead and was told tit needed to be in person. Once I picked him up he confided in me that his girlfriend(15) has been being molested by her uncle that lives in the home with the family. She has no intention of turning this alleged ******* in, as shes scared of being removed from her home and him getting in trouble. Also living in the home are her 3 younger sisters.


    I called the PD and was told I needed to call the SD. After calling the SD, I was told that they needed to speak with her and I needed to try and arrange a meeting. I have every intention of trying to protect those kids if possible. But what can I do if she refuses to meet with the Sheriff.
    Last edited by pbchief2; 09-13-2011, 10:22 PM. Reason: edit age
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    Ron-Solo
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    You are in a difficult spot. If you can get her to talk to the police about if, also get her counseling and support. She will need it. They usually won't remove kids from the home unless the parents are aware and do nothing about it.

    If he's molesting her, he is probably molesting the sisters, or soon will. Do not let this go....they need you.
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    • #3
      IntoForever
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      • Sep 2010
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      He needs to be stopped ASAP or he will continue to do it causing irreparable harm to the kids. Drop the dime so he can get the help he needs before it becomes much worse.
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      • #4
        pbchief2
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 522

        I wont let this go, I'm just in shock that the SD didn't even want her name or even mine.

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        • #5
          Lancear15
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          • Oct 2008
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          If law enforcement isn't a help, tell her parents, call CPS, and her school. Not that this will help either, but then you can rest knowing you did everything you could.

          BTW, it is also possible she is lying, so don't do anything crazy.
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          • #6
            JayCo
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            • Mar 2011
            • 183

            Its extremely unfortunate but these cases are hard to prosecute without the victim. Agencies can put alot of man hours on the cases only to have them tossed out at preliminary Hearing due to a lack of evidence. You need to get the girls to talk to the SD. You also need to call CPS. Most likely the kids will get pulled from the home but its safer than the abuse. Good Luck to you.

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            • #7
              Oceanbob
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              • Jun 2010
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              Because she could be lying and all the evidence you have is hearsay, I would just talk to the parents only at this stage. Once you do that, they can make the next few decisions.

              Thanks for being there for your nephew.!

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              • #8
                BigDogatPlay
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                • Jun 2007
                • 7362

                Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                You are in a difficult spot. If you can get her to talk to the police about if, also get her counseling and support. She will need it. They usually won't remove kids from the home unless the parents are aware and do nothing about it.
                Speaking from having worked crimes against children, the above is very sound advice. This is a very difficult situation to try and work through as there is no telling, often times, until you get into the investigation just what the real dynamics of the family are.

                The OP is dealing with a possible victim who is wholly outside of his own family, and would want to tread carefully. It would be very easy for him to get blowback from a family in disbelief.

                Ultimately it is the girl herself, and her parents, who will have to come forward. If she is truly that reluctant she may never take that first step. In that sense getting her pointed in the direction of a counselor at school or in private practice where she can take shelter even temporarily in a supportive environment may be a bigger help.

                If the investigation pans out, and there isn't anything deeper afoot in the family, it is the offender who will be removed from the scene, not the kids. The various agencies will all do their level best to keep the core family together and supported.

                If he's molesting her, he is probably molesting the sisters, or soon will. Do not let this go....they need you.
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                • #9
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                  • Sep 2007
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                  Originally posted by IntoForever
                  He needs to be stopped ASAP or he will continue to do it causing irreparable harm to the kids. Drop the dime so he can get the help he needs before it becomes much worse.
                  I am thinking you made a typo. Did you mean to say, "Drop the dime so she can get the help she needs..." You don't mean the uncle, who is the possible suspect in this case, needs to get help before it gets worse, do you. If in fact the the uncle is doing what the niece says, he is not going to get better.

                  If it is a typo, which it probably is due to your first statement, you might want to change it.

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                  • #10
                    DannyInSoCal
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                    • Aug 2010
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                    Originally posted by retired
                    I am thinking you made a typo. Did you mean to say, "Drop the dime so she can get the help she needs..." You don't mean the uncle, who is the possible suspect in this case, needs to get help before it gets worse, do you. If in fact the the uncle is doing what the niece says, he is not going to get better.

                    If it is a typo, which it probably is due to your first statement, you might want to change it.
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                    • #11
                      Tacit Blue
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                      • Feb 2009
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                      I was semi involved in a similar situation with a Chomo, he was associated with a family friend of my mother in laws. He was the boyfriend, and my mother in law was friends with his woman. We'll this woman had two children from a previous marriage and the boyfriend was not only molesting them, but other young girls around the apartment complex.

                      He was a monster to say the least, and his girlfriend was in disbelief and shocked that it happened. It took me and a neighbor who is a crime prevention officer, to convince her to call CPS and Sheriff's. They caught him and made a arrest and interviewed him, like i said the extent of his damage was alot more,than everyone initially thought. He even molested his own son, from his previous marriage!

                      All of us, including his ex wife and her new man. Showed up at his court date. I mean shoulda seen his face when he realized all of us were seated.

                      It took the mother to convince the children to go down to forensic lab and get a 'rape exam' and a interview. To finally to get the ball rolling to put him behind bars. You need to attempt contacting the mother, and do not delay as the evidence can disappear quickly.

                      Everyone thought that since he was a prior Marine, he'd beat the polygraph. He cracked under pressure.

                      Remember kids or teens, rarely lie about molestation.

                      This is what what the end result was:

                      1 1 288(A) PC L&L W/CHILD UNDER 14 F NC5 09/26/2011 09:30 FP $500,000
                      SCN288327 1 2 288(A) PC L&L W/CHILD UNDER 14 F NC5 09/26/2011 09:30 FP 0
                      SCN288327 1 3 288(A) PC L&L W/CHILD UNDER 14 F NC5 09/26/2011 09:30 FP 0
                      SCN288327 1 4 288(A) PC L&L W/CHILD UNDER 14 F NC5 09/26/2011 09:30 FP 0
                      SCN288327 1 5 288(A) PC L&L W/CHILD UNDER 14 F NC5 09/26/2011 09:30 FP 0
                      SCN288327 1 6 288(A) PC L&L W/CHILD UNDER 14 F NC5 09/26/2011 09:30 FP 0
                      SCN288327 1 7 288(C)(1) PC L&L VICTIM 14/15 YRS OLD F NC5 09/26/2011 09:30 FP 0
                      SCN288327 1 8 288(C)(1) PC L&L VICTIM 14/15 YRS OLD F NC5 09/26/2011 09:30 FP

                      7 FELONIES!
                      Last edited by Tacit Blue; 09-15-2011, 11:35 AM.
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                      • #12
                        erik_26
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        Originally posted by Tacit Blue
                        Remember kids or teens, rarely lie about molestation.
                        True.... but it does happen. I knew a girl when I was in Jr. high that claimed another kid in school had raped her.

                        Turns out..... MEGA lie. She was just looking for attention.


                        So you can't always assume everyone is telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.


                        Not saying to disregard any claim. But be very cautious and thorough.
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                          Tacit Blue
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                          Originally posted by erik_26
                          True.... but it does happen. I knew a girl when I was in Jr. high that claimed another kid in school had raped her.

                          Turns out..... MEGA lie. She was just looking for attention.


                          So you can't always assume everyone is telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.


                          Not saying to disregard any claim. But be very cautious and thorough.
                          Any joe blow or citizen should take it into consideration. But its up Law Enforcement to decide what factually took place, its not for us to decide.
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                          • #14
                            BigDogatPlay
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                            • Jun 2007
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                            Originally posted by erik_26
                            So you can't always assume everyone is telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
                            Hence my caveat in my earlier reply.... "if the investigation pans out". Rarely are victims totally making it up, but it does happen. Usually gets figured out pretty quickly.
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                              Tacit Blue
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                              • Feb 2009
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                              Originally posted by erik_26
                              True.... but it does happen. I knew a girl when I was in Jr. high that claimed another kid in school had raped her.

                              Turns out..... MEGA lie. She was just looking for attention.


                              So you can't always assume everyone is telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.


                              Not saying to disregard any claim. But be very cautious and thorough.
                              Yeah, I understand what your saying. But victims are reluctant to come out and say anything, because they are worried it will cause more harm. Somtimes it is bogus and is used to blackmail someone.

                              In this case, the boyfriend threaten the kids with violence or to harm their mother. As a means of control.

                              If a child like in the op's case steps forward like that. Chances are its a legit claim on her part. I mean she already seems fearful telling an adult, thats why she told someone her own age.
                              Last edited by Tacit Blue; 09-13-2011, 5:55 PM.
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