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  • #16
    retired
    Administrator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Sep 2007
    • 9409

    Originally posted by Gnome




    I've actually carried an unauthorized handgun (SA XD .45acp) for bear protection while camping/fishing at Rock Creek Lakes Resort, in the Sierras. Was I wrong to think that 14 rounds of .45acp would be strong enough to kill/fend off a bear attack? It is the strongest caliber handgun I own. I figured I would only be dealing with small black bears, and not Kodiaks or Grizzlies. It was either that, or the 870 on my back. Think the 870 on my back would have caused a few double takes.

    -Gnome
    To answer your question, yes. I posted a thread about just that very subject a couple of years ago and there have been others posted since then. The general consensus was that you want as a minimum a .44 magnum if using a handgun, even on small black bears.

    I'm sure there have been instances of someone killing a black bear with a .45 and perhaps even a 9mm, but why take that chance. The 870 with a slug would be perfect, but as far as a handgun, I wouldn't settle for less than a .44 magnum.

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    • #17
      Gnome
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 1693

      Originally posted by retired
      To answer your question, yes. I posted a thread about just that very subject a couple of years ago and there have been others posted since then. The general consensus was that you want as a minimum a .44 magnum if using a handgun, even on small black bears.

      I'm sure there have been instances of someone killing a black bear with a .45 and perhaps even a 9mm, but why take that chance. The 870 with a slug would be perfect, but as far as a handgun, I wouldn't settle for less than a .44 magnum.
      Interesting. Good to know. The Ruger Alaskan looks nice. Pricey though!

      Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
      During Y2K my neighbor and I were talking and he said he had a basement full of water and canned food. He asked if I had stocked up and I said that I had. I told him I bought a 12 guage shotgun, a .308 rifle and several bricks of .22 ammo.

      He is an anti-gun guy and he said. "Well, you can't eat ammunition". I replied with "When I'm starving to death with a case of ammunition, who's door do you think I am going to knock on?"

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      • #18
        cowboykenny
        Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 207

        My Dad told me many years ago your guns are like your children you just don't sell them.

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        • #19
          psango
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jul 2009
          • 1303

          good advice

          Originally posted by cowboykenny
          My Dad told me many years ago your guns are like your children you just don't sell them.
          I've regretted it more times than not!
          Last edited by psango; 09-10-2011, 12:55 PM.
          Always remember to pillage before you burn.

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          • #20
            Gnome
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 1693

            Originally posted by cowboykenny
            My Dad told me many years ago your guns are like your children you just don't sell them.
            Got the same advise from my range staff in the academy. One of my instructor's last words to us were "Remember, when it comes to guns, it's always addition. Never subtraction."

            I've heeded his words so far.

            Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
            During Y2K my neighbor and I were talking and he said he had a basement full of water and canned food. He asked if I had stocked up and I said that I had. I told him I bought a 12 guage shotgun, a .308 rifle and several bricks of .22 ammo.

            He is an anti-gun guy and he said. "Well, you can't eat ammunition". I replied with "When I'm starving to death with a case of ammunition, who's door do you think I am going to knock on?"

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            • #21
              emvampyre
              Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 158

              [QUOTE=psango;7120974]Now that I'm retired I've lost interest in Duty type handguns, MP40, 4006, etc. QUOTE]

              When my dad retired, he stopped shooting his duty weapon (S&W 39) but carried his old Mod. 36 and shot it frequently. He shot his revolvers and "fun guns" as much as he could, pretty much up until the end. He never shot another PPC or "assault" course ever again. He said it wasn't fun, brought up too many memories of "the bad times".

              The last gun I bought was a department authorized duty gun, Sig P226 Tac Ops, bought the tac light, holster, mag pouches, etc...However, I love shooting the stuff I can't/wouldn't carry. I love ringing the steel with one of the .44's, or .45 Colt's. Don't get me started on one of the .22's, be it a rifle or handgun.

              I personally find shooting to be relaxing and just plain fun and sometimes just plinking with something that isn't high speed low drag is just what the therapist ordered...
              "Carpe noctem"

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              • #22
                emvampyre
                Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 158

                Originally posted by Gnome
                Got the same advise from my range staff in the academy. One of my instructor's last words to us were "Remember, when it comes to guns, it's always addition. Never subtraction."

                I've heeded his words so far.
                LOL! Those boys and girls up at Wayside are smarter than they look!
                "Carpe noctem"

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                • #23
                  Ron-Solo
                  In Memoriam
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 8581

                  Why do these threads always end up discussing shooting a bear?

                  What did Yogi and Boo Boo do?

                  And me, I like shooting a variety of guns. Sometimes when we go out, it is revolver day, or bolt action day, or WWII day. Keeps it interesting.
                  LASD Retired
                  1978-2011

                  NRA Life Member
                  CRPA Life Member
                  NRA Rifle Instructor
                  NRA Shotgun Instructor
                  NRA Range Safety Officer
                  DOJ Certified Instructor

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                  • #24
                    retired
                    Administrator
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 9409

                    Originally posted by Gnome
                    Got the same advise from my range staff in the academy. One of my instructor's last words to us were "Remember, when it comes to guns, it's always addition. Never subtraction."

                    I've heeded his words so far.
                    My guns will go to my son when I die. The only gun I have ever sold is a S&W Model 59 jamomatic that could not be fixed by Cheshire and Perez no matter how many times I took it too them. I wouldn't think of leaving that to my son.

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                    • #25
                      Gnome
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1693

                      Originally posted by emvampyre
                      LOL! Those boys and girls up at Wayside are smarter than they look!
                      Yes they are. My first impression of some of them was "OMG! These are the weapons instructors for the department!? They're a bunch of crazy Yosemite Sam wannabes!"

                      After a couple of range sessions with them, my thoughts turned to "Hell yeah! These guys (and gals) ARE a bunch of Yosemite Sams!"

                      They are so laid back, which makes learning easy and fun. I look forward to every training session that reads:

                      Location: PDC Range (APR)

                      Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                      During Y2K my neighbor and I were talking and he said he had a basement full of water and canned food. He asked if I had stocked up and I said that I had. I told him I bought a 12 guage shotgun, a .308 rifle and several bricks of .22 ammo.

                      He is an anti-gun guy and he said. "Well, you can't eat ammunition". I replied with "When I'm starving to death with a case of ammunition, who's door do you think I am going to knock on?"

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