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  • frank8097
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    • Feb 2010
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    To leo's: What would you do.....

    If your dept put out a completely unconstitutional order for you to confiscate all the firearms of everyone that lived in your jurisdiction? I ask this question because Im curious as to what the common leo response would be here on a pro 2nd amendment forum. Im pretty sure most leo's that are neutral (I guess) on gun rights wouldn't hesitate for a second to follow such an order, like we seen during katrina.
  • #2
    HarrisonS004
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 114

    Not a LEO;

    If their is an unconstitutional law the most leos probably wouldnt enforce it. If they have legitimate reasons (which is really hard to think of one for that situation) then they would probably enforce it.

    I can see this thread turning sideways fast. Should the mods just go ahead and lock this now or ?????
    Last edited by HarrisonS004; 08-30-2011, 11:05 AM. Reason: Edited to not be completely off topic.

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    • #3
      Roddd
      Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 348

      I think most LEOs would run to the hills, much like everyone else.

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      • #4
        joefreas
        • Jan 2010
        • 2421

        This would most likely be a task for the National Guard.
        If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

        Originally posted by XDRoX
        Walking around with a banana in a holster won't do anything but get you laughed at.
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        Ron Paul

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        • #5
          frank8097
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          • Feb 2010
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          Originally posted by HarrisonS004
          Should the mods just go ahead and lock this now or ?????
          why? its just a question.

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          • #6
            frank8097
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            • Feb 2010
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            Originally posted by HarrisonS004
            Not a LEO;

            If their is an unconstitutional law the most leos probably wouldnt enforce it. If they have legitimate reasons (which is really hard to think of one for that situation) then they would probably enforce it.

            I can see this thread turning sideways fast. Should the mods just go ahead and lock this now or ?????
            Well thats kind of the point during katrina the police didn't hesitate so they clearly weren't pro 2nd like the ones on here. Therefore thats the point of this post to get the point of view of a pro 2nd amendment leo.

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            • #7
              bcj128
              Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 462

              It's not a matter of pro or con 2nd amendment. It's about following a lawful order. Most officers would bring forward protest, stating their concerns. Supervisors would then have to back up the order with some sort of legal opinion from their city attorney/DA/State AG which would either support the order, or lose the fight. Most officers don't want to go off and violate constitutional rights...we like to keep owning houses, stay out of trouble, etc...

              If however such an opinion was rendered, the officers would likely be shielded from liability as they have received some sort of legal opinion that is telling them it's constitutional. The boss/DA/AG on the other hand, may not be so lucky if their opinion failed constitutional muster.

              I think there was a bill passed that prohibited this from happening anyways. Also, with McDonald/Heller on the books I see it as unlikely that such an opinion would ever be rendered.

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              • #8
                frank8097
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                • Feb 2010
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                I understand where your coming from with tec info, but Im speaking on the grounds if such an order was rendered and you personally would be amongst the leo enforcing it. Think for example if it was in the wake of a newly enacted law, such as something with the stature of the patriot act for example
                Last edited by frank8097; 08-30-2011, 12:17 PM. Reason: spelling error

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                • #9
                  1911su16b870
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                  • Dec 2006
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                  Not sure if

                  During the post Rodney King LA riots, cops didn't go out and confiscate guns from everyone in their jurisdiction.
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                  • #10
                    Ron-Solo
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                    • Jan 2009
                    • 8581

                    I'm so tired of all these gun confiscation threads. This is nothing but a troll thread. Period.

                    To date, no one has been able to point out any time this happening in California, the disaster Capitol of the country.

                    Enough is enough. STOP
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                    • #11
                      frank8097
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                      Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                      I'm so tired of all these gun confiscation threads. This is nothing but a troll thread. Period.

                      To date, no one has been able to point out any time this happening in California, the disaster Capitol of the country.

                      Enough is enough. STOP
                      I wasn't aware "gun confiscation" threads were common and that to you are a no no (which I could care less), but thats no reason for name calling. If you don't like it don't read it.

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                      • #12
                        TRICKSTER
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 12438

                        We would all yell "Jawohn mein Kommandant" and proceed to grab as many guns as possible, keeping the good ones for our personal collections.
                        Now that you have the answer you were looking for, I have a bridge for sale, it's a great deal that you just can't pass up. I am also selling a genuine video of a snowball fight in hell.

                        Warning: Due to the large number of that have infiltrated the LEO forum, you may not get a serious answer.
                        Last edited by TRICKSTER; 08-30-2011, 1:16 PM.


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                        • #13
                          Ron-Solo
                          In Memoriam
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 8581

                          Originally posted by frank8097
                          I wasn't aware "gun confiscation" threads were common and that to you are a no no (which I could care less), but thats no reason for name calling. If you don't like it don't read it.
                          They pop up all the time, where have you been? and they always turn into a LE bashing thread.

                          I suggest you read the rules for the LE Forum too, since it is obvious you are a new member.
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                          • #14
                            frank8097
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                            I've been in the non LE forum and I have no intent to turn this into a LE bashing thread, but simply see what supposed pro second amendment leo would do if such an order was given.

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                            • #15
                              philobeddoe
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                              lets look to history as our guide ...,

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