Goofy question

[titus75]

Yah I know it's goofy question but: I have always wondered about a LEO accidently blowing a hole thru the roof of a squad car while removing or putting back the shotgun in the center console. I notice that the barrels always point up so I've always wondered if this has ever happened or is there a safety feature that prevents it? Anyone LEO's here ever seen something like this happen?

[ironcross]

My Deputies don't load one in the chamber. Cause just takes a rack of the charging handle/rack of the shotgun to get it going.

[Falconis]

Never seen it or heard of it happening during my time on. I'm sure it has happened. My favorite story was one of my academy mates finding chicken bones in the shotgun when he did the pre-shift check. I don't know what happened after that if anything.

[Ron-Solo]

Had a guy in my academy class do it. He was sitting in the passenger seat and was loading it after the pre-shift inspections. Our Ithica 37's didn't have a trigger disconnect and he chambered a round, which he shouldn't have done, and he had his finger on the trigger when he closed the slide. Boom!

He had issues. Although he graduated...barely...he didn't make probation.

The new Remington 870s that LASD went to don't get broken down during the pre-shift inspection like the Ithicas did.

[415dog!]

Have broken a few unit windshields with our crappy set up

[TRICKSTER]

We weren't suppose to carry shotguns with one in the chamber. That being said, some people were lazy and failed to check the shotgun at the beginning of their shift. In 30 years I know of one officer that installed a sunroof in a patrol car and another that installed a skylight in the substation ceiling.

[Ron-Solo]

Policy was empty chamber, cocked, safety on, 4 in the magazine tube. All you had to do was hit the slide release and rack the slide. If Yu had your finger on the trigger when racking said slide.......boom

[ironcross]

As, I'm not a LEO, I was able to attend briefing etc. Was able to help the Deputy with his AR and they do not keep their AR/Shotgun (Which they don't carry in the console anymore here) loaded. He dry fired it and had a full promag.

[Notorious]

We parking lot load which is unlocked, uncocked, and 4 in the tube. Just rack and go when needed. The procedure we use prevents unplanned venting of the units if you follow the SOP... I know, big assumption.

Get shotgun (870), safety on, manually unload all rounds from tube, rack repeatedly, visually and manually inspect to ensure empty weapon, unscrew cap, disassemble weapon, safety off, pull trigger of weapon (sans barrel and cap) while putting finger on firing pin channel to check function, reassemble, load 4 rounds into tube, place in rack.

[titus75]

I guess no one, not even LEO's are immune from accidently discharging a firearm, we had a incident in my town here about 8 years back where a veteran officer accidently shot himself while getting dressed for work,.....http://www.policeone.com/officer-dow...obert-R-Ramos/ I had met Officer Ramos on several occasions and he was a real nice guy, truly a gentleman, sadly his death was not considered "in the line of duty" by the CPOM foundation because he was getting dressed in his home and not in the locker room at the station. http://www.lompocrecord.com/news/loc...65a3b979a.html, Apparently many motor officers get suited up for work at their home because they take their motors home with them each nite and get dressed and go directly to patrol from their house. I think it really is a shame that Officer Ramos's family was denied benefits based on what is really a technicality, he wasn't getting dressed for fun he was getting dressed to protect and serve the public. He was only 1 year away from completing his 20. In any case, he is the only officer in the history of the SMPD to die by gunshot and godwilling he will be the last. To this day I still get sad/angry when I think about the whole incident. Rest in peace Officer Ramos and all of you LEO's stay safe.

[J_B]

Trainees have not latched the rack and ruined a few computer screens.

[Notorious]

We have our share of ND's. Just not shotgun. Thank God.

[center_x]

Were suppose to ride 4 in the tube, 2 slugs in the stock, none in the chamber.

[ironcross]

I see a good reason without one in the pipe.

1/10 times you'll use you're long arm and you can easily rack/pump the charging handle.

Cause when your EOS, you don't have to mess with unloading your long arm. Plus depending on the gun lock systems ND's may happen. Like they say "In the heat of the moment anything can happen".

[Notorious]

Besides, when you have to pull it out and rack it to get it into action, the sheer terror the sound causes in miscreants makes it all worth it.