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[mtsul]

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[mlatino]

For someone that has their Masters degree, your friend isn't too bright.

[Falconis]

Bad candidate ... NO Donut!

[mtsul]

For someone that has their Masters degree, your friend isn't too bright.

I agree it was very bad idea an thing to do!

I'll add he was either 15 or 16 when he did this, the shotgun might have been C&R I'll ask him when I talk to him

[Falconis]

your friends is either going to get DQ'd for lying or he's gonna get DQ'd cause he was stupid. On top of that, he may end up in jail for a crime where the statute hasn't run out yet.

Can I ask why are you even helping him down this road?

[mtsul]

your friends is either going to get DQ'd for lying or he's gonna get DQ'd cause he was stupid. On top of that, he may end up in jail for a crime where the statute hasn't run out yet.

Can I ask why are you even helping him down this road?

-Well he would not lie about it.
-Have people been arrested because of the polygraph?
-I'm am not I told him to hold off and find out as I thought both things were felonies and I though both would DQ him of not end in jail time but I was asking you guys for some actual facts or educated guess/thoughts on the subject.

Also are you LEO? have you seen heard people getting arrested or anything from telling the truth on the poly?

[johnthomas]

http://law.findlaw.com/state-laws/criminal-statute-of-limitations/california/

In the poly, they will ask if he ever stole anything. His answer is, when I was a minor.
I myself would never mention that I stole guns and sold them. But then, I never stole guns and sold them.
If this were me, I would consult an attorney before I subject myself to anything like that.

[mtsul]

http://law.findlaw.com/state-laws/cr...ns/california/

In the poly, they will ask if he ever stole anything. His answer is, when I was a minor.
I myself would never mention that I stole guns and sold them. But then, I never stole guns and sold them.
If this were me, I would consult an attorney before I subject myself to anything like that.

I think he is ***** out of luck, is there a polygraph for military? I guess he has the option right?

(thanks mods I'll be better

[biochembruin]

Tell him not to waste his time trying to apply. He made his choices in life and must live with the consequences. If he wasn't your friend, would you want someone who committed multiple felonies as an officer, or even in the military for that matter?

Your friend can have a long, successful career in whatever he got his masters in, and hopefully will raise his children to make better choices than he did so they will have all the opportunities they want.

[Tacit Blue]

-Well he would not lie about it.
-Have people been arrested because of the polygraph?
-I'm am not I told him to hold off and find out as I thought both things were felonies and I though both would DQ him of not end in jail time but I was asking you guys for some actual facts or educated guess/thoughts on the subject.

Also are you LEO? have you seen heard people getting arrested or anything from telling the truth on the poly?

Here is a case right here. This guy was arrested for admitting to sexual molestation.

https://www.10news.com/news/27919115/detail.html

"SAN DIEGO -- A man who applied for a job as a San Diego police officer was arrested after answers on his application raised red flags.
Read: Arrested SDPD Officer Applicant Defends Self From Jail
On his questionnaire to work for the San Diego Police Department, Robert Williams had to answer questions about crimes he might have committed.

A search warrant affidavit lists question No. 172 from Williams' applicant questionnaire as trouble.
The question, which asked applicants if they have ever had sexual contact with a child, had a yes answer.
Question No. 175, which asked applicants if they have ever viewed, purchased, sold or subscribed to child pornography, also received a yes response.
10News learned there were two more flagged questions and responses.
Police then searched Williams' car and apartment, confiscated computers and hard drives and arrested him.
Williams had lived at an apartment in Chula Vista for about a week. A man who answered the door told 10News, "He was a guest and he's no longer living here. He won't live here anymore."
In April, Williams had moved in with a woman and her son in east San Diego.
"I did a favor and brought him in because he had nowhere to go and he gave me a sob story," said Rory Shipp.
She said one day she turned on her computer and found a strange file after Williams left his hard drive hooked up.
"And when I opened the file, it was a little girl in blue and she was coming out of her clothes, playing with a little thing in her mouth. Oh my God, tears came out of my eyes. It was a home video," she said. "


I don't agree with this to a certain extent, but he shouldn't have been punished for telling the truth. This only makes people more dishonest and weary. However it is what is, the fact remains that he is a sexual predator.

[john.t.singh]

My roommate did the poly and they asked **** like did you ever steal, do drugs etc. He had a friend that toked and when they asked if he associates with any drug users he had to say yes. Dq him.

Any shady **** and your basically sol

[biochembruin]

...I don't agree with this to a certain extent, but he shouldn't have been punished for telling the truth. This only makes people more dishonest and weary. However it is what is, the fact remains that he is a sexual predator.

He didn't get in trouble for telling the truth, he got in trouble for committing a crime. You don't get to tell the truth about doing a bad thing and expect it to negate the harm you did in the first place. If that was the case, any confession a criminal makes should qualify them for immunity from prosecution.

[Tacit Blue]

He didn't get in trouble for telling the truth, he got in trouble for committing a crime. You don't get to tell the truth about doing a bad thing and expect it to negate the harm you did in the first place. If that was the case, any confession a criminal makes should qualify them for immunity from prosecution.

I think i didn't properly convey my message. When i first started applying to agencies and such, i was under the impression if you were honest. That even though you may have committed a crime/ or have skeletons in the closet; that you would be given a chance to explain. Like a gentlemen's agreement of some sort. This proves that isn't the case.(In this instance) However i believe in this situation. SDPD was already under intense media attention, for the scandals with the Officers engaging in misconduct.


This was used as a tactic for a smoke screen;diverting attention away from the incidents that happened, for a short period of time.

[biochembruin]

I think i didn't properly convey my message. When i first started applying to agencies and such, i was under the impression if you were honest. That even though you may have committed a crime/ or have skeletons in the closet; that you would be given a chance to explain. Like a gentlemen's agreement of some sort. This proves that isn't the case. However i believe in this situation. SDPD was already under intense media attention for the scandals with the Officers engaging in misconduct, and this was used as a tactic for a smoke screen.

Diverting attention away from the incidents that happened, for a short period of time.

I get what you're saying, and there may be some political aspects to it as well in this case. However, there is no explicit or implied immunity from prosecution for confessions of serious crimes in the police application process, nor should there be, in my opinion. If someone is stupid enough to apply for a police job, and admit they ran over and killed a pedestrian 6 years ago and fled the scene, but have since learned from their mistake, they should still be punished for the crime regardless of the fact that they told the truth about it only under the guise of an employment application.

I think police departments will "look the other way," if you will, when the admitted crime is not serious (ie, wobblett) or the statute of limitations has expired. Other than that, I say the department has a duty to investigate crimes. They are still police, after all.

[fullrearview]

Wow! no help whatsoever to the thread. You should go find a nice cave to trool in! If you want to get your post count up go to the off topic area

And I'm on my phone so it really screws with any and all typing if you must know

Hey man... It's hard to help when you have to read it three or four times to understand it. Punctuation helps.

Your friend may be SOL, even though it was done as a minor... Honestly, I think the meth would hang him up more that the guns as many dept.s have a ZERO tolerance policy on meth and intravenous drugs.