Provoking?

[tyrist]

Many times people who think they are just "defending" themselves press their advantage and actually become guilty of a felony crime.

It's best to avoid a fight even if you have to swallow your ego and just walk away. People say rude stuff to me all the time. I am not allowed to get in a fight with them because of it.

[joepamjohn]

Not to say you are in the wrong either way but who knows how it gets twisted in a court with scumsucking lawyers?

LOL, the same "scumsucking" lawyers you will now need to pay big bucks to in order to keep your butt our of jail, right or wrong.

[Notorious]

Whether or not I will need the lawyer later to save me doesn't change the fact that they are still lower than scumsucking catfish.

[ap3572001]

So tell us, whom did they charge and with what?

I wont go into details. But from what I understand, an EXTREME skill of one of the guys who defended themselves is not playing in his favor. We will see what happens. I still think that the four guys are at fault.

[9mmepiphany]

The problem with extreme skill is that there is the responsibility of being able to stop when the fight is won. That is where you get into the balance of force.

It is like having a CCW, there is an expectation you you'll not start fights as you have the advantage of knowing that you are armed while the other person does not...you can't bait them and then claim self defense

[Notorious]

I wont go into details. But from what I understand, an EXTREME skill of one of the guys who defended themselves is not playing in his favor. We will see what happens. I still think that the four guys are at fault.

The tough part is knowing exactly when to stop. When you have a lot of training you have sequences planned in your head and doctrines you follow. So when faced with a threat, you go through what you know and you put down the threat.

But when you follow through and finish your opponent, sometimes that will get into making you the aggressor. Case in point, you are attacked by a guy throwing a random haymaker and you catch it and throw a body blow which knocks the wind out of him and he bends over. Now the natural thing is to follow up with another technique and put him down with a kick, an elbow, whatever. However, depending on what condition the guy is in when he doubles over, you can easily become the aggressor then and there.

The tough part which is totally unrealistic is that you have to counter one technique at a time and wait for the other guy's next move before you keep attacking in self defense.

[9mmepiphany]

It is like my baton instructor said, "If he backs off after the first strike, don't chase after him yelling: Wait, I owe you two more to complete the technique"

[Notorious]

It is like my baton instructor said, "If he backs off after the first strike, don't chase after him yelling: Wait, I owe you two more to complete the technique"

That is so wrong! Don't say it, just do it!!!

[Falconis]

The tough part is knowing exactly when to stop. When you have a lot of training you have sequences planned in your head and doctrines you follow. So when faced with a threat, you go through what you know and you put down the threat.

But when you follow through and finish your opponent, sometimes that will get into making you the aggressor. Case in point, you are attacked by a guy throwing a random haymaker and you catch it and throw a body blow which knocks the wind out of him and he bends over. Now the natural thing is to follow up with another technique and put him down with a kick, an elbow, whatever. However, depending on what condition the guy is in when he doubles over, you can easily become the aggressor then and there.

The tough part which is totally unrealistic is that you have to counter one technique at a time and wait for the other guy's next move before you keep attacking in self defense.

If you were trained to do it as part of a kata or whatever other term you want to use, there is legal precedent to say you will be ok. So long as you don't do something like pound on his face for 10 minutes straight.

[Notorious]

If you were trained to do it as part of a kata or whatever other term you want to use, there is legal precedent to say you will be ok. So long as you don't do something like pound on his face for 10 minutes straight.

What if your kata consists of beating on faces for 10 minutes straight?