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  • cian
    Junior Member
    • May 2010
    • 32

    scenario question???

    Ok here is a question for you guys.

    I am sitting at home when I hear sirens and then hear screeching brakes, and then gunshots. I look out the window and I see a wounded police officer on the ground, and see 2 or 3 people shooting at the officer while he is down.

    Ok here is the question, should I get my gun and try to help the officer? Or should I just call the police and wait?

    I am not trying to come off as a "Rambo" type, I was just curious.

    Oh and I am a Marine if that helps. 1993-1997

    Cian
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  • #2
    Ron-Solo
    In Memoriam
    • Jan 2009
    • 8581

    Just keep in mind that responding units won't know you are a good guy, so expect to be treated as a possible suspect until they figure it out.

    Me, I'm jumping it with both feet and anything in my arsenal that fits the situation. I'll be making myself known when the first units arrive, without a gun in my hand.
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    • #3
      cian
      Junior Member
      • May 2010
      • 32

      reponding units.

      As for the resoponding units, I know I would still be treated like a suspect, but I would have my wife on the phone with 911 giving them my description and a situation update.
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      Intratec Cat .45
      Mossberg 500
      Mossberg "New Haven" 500
      M4gery "Daniel Defense M4 URG, v1 upper 1-7 twist, POF Lower" Magpul B.A.D. lever, Surefire g2 light
      Savage model 111 in 30-06, with a bushnell 3-9 power scope/
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      • #4
        Quickdraw Mcgraw
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 711

        interesting...if you save his life they probly treat ya like a HERO, on the other hand if he dies??????

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        • #5
          BoJackUSMC
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2010
          • 7091

          Since you are former Marine, you should have no problem hitting body shape targets with your motivated AR 15 up to 500 yards. So just take cover without exposing yourself and take them out one by one. After that notify yourself without weapon on your body to the responding unit when they arrive.

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          • #6
            Mr. Burns
            Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 302

            I would help. If I didn't I could never look at myself in the mirror again.

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            • #7
              Bunyfofu69
              Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 168

              In a situation like that, responding units will be so focused on the task at hand, they may not even hear subsequent information (except for the important facts i.e. shots fired, description of person, direction of flight, location). Your description may not even be relayed, or misinterpreted as a 2nd subject.

              The prudent thing to do, is remain safe and covered. If the threat has left the area, immediatly give medical attention (what you may know), or relay vital information over the net to dispatch via the radio.

              I can recall an incident with an off duty NYPD fellow who interveined on a assualt of a women.
              He drew on the assailants and was ultimately shot and killed by responding units with mistaken identification.

              IF you have an m60 at the ready though. By all means.

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              • #8
                Falconis
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 1688

                If it's me, by all means help me out!!!!! Granted I may not be able to give a statement while I am bleeding my guts out, but I'll thank you after I regain conciousness. Bottom line, every action has to be decided by the individual knowing full well consequences may come out of it, good or bad. Me if I were in non sworn shoes, I would help the good guys. It's how I was raised.
                Last edited by Falconis; 05-27-2011, 1:49 PM.

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                • #9
                  1911su16b870
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 7654

                  I am helping out with whatever I have on me.

                  When units roll up I am grounding anything, arms up, stepping away and going kneeling and face down prone, until it is sorted out.
                  "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

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                  • #10
                    Ron-Solo
                    In Memoriam
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 8581

                    Originally posted by Quickdraw Mcgraw
                    interesting...if you save his life they probly treat ya like a HERO, on the other hand if he dies??????
                    We (LE) would still be grateful for the effort!
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                    • #11
                      yzErnie
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 6309

                      No question in my mind, I'm here to help the good guys. Ultimately, a decision only you can make. If you are at your home there should be available cover and concealment for you to use as you are eliminating the threat(s).
                      The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

                      Originally posted by RazoE
                      I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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                      • #12
                        stix213
                        AKA: Joe Censored
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 18998

                        I would try to help. Its just the right thing to do. I'd call 911 afterward, since I would expect they already know since there is already an officer there.

                        My hands would be in the air as soon as any additional officers arrived, before they even tell me to.

                        I'm not a LEO, so don't listen to me. Just saying what I would do.
                        Last edited by stix213; 05-27-2011, 6:01 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Desert Dude
                          Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 112

                          Originally posted by cian
                          Ok here is a question for you guys.

                          I look out the window and I see a wounded police officer on the ground, and see 2 or 3 people shooting at the officer while he is down.

                          Cian
                          If you can see them they are in range. Take cover, return fire on the targets you see, render first aid to the officer and wait for arriving units.

                          This is what I would try to do.

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                          • #14
                            Notorious
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 4695

                            Fire away and put down the threat, then put the gun away as fast as you hear the approaching sirens, get far away from the gun, and then prone yourself out while yelling you're the one who called it in and we can verify with dispatch when we get everyone situated. Just make sure the officer hears you once and stop talking so they don't get more confused with the chaos going on and get emotions worked up more than they already need to be.

                            Thanks for your service!
                            I like guns

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                            • #15
                              cian
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 32

                              Thanks for your replies, it was just a thought me and my co-worker were talking about.

                              And you can be sure I would get involved.
                              S&W 4506
                              Intratec Cat .45
                              Mossberg 500
                              Mossberg "New Haven" 500
                              M4gery "Daniel Defense M4 URG, v1 upper 1-7 twist, POF Lower" Magpul B.A.D. lever, Surefire g2 light
                              Savage model 111 in 30-06, with a bushnell 3-9 power scope/
                              Semper Fi

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