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  • ap3572001
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2007
    • 6039

    Leo to Leo sale

    Can an LEO OFFER A PISTOL WITH STD. CAPACITY MAGAZINES FOR SALE TO ANOTHER LEO ONLY? Would it be perfectly legal ?
  • #2
    TRICKSTER
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2008
    • 12438

    Needs to go through a PPT at a 01 FFL dealer, just like everyone else.


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    • #3
      ap3572001
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2007
      • 6039

      Originally posted by TRICKSTER
      Needs to go through a PPT at a 01 FFL dealer, just like everyone else.
      I thought that a person can't offer std .capacity magazines for sale in Ca.

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      • #4
        TRICKSTER
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Mar 2008
        • 12438

        Missed the mag part. AFAK LEO's are exempt from the mag laws.
        I believe it's under 12020(b)(20)pc
        Last edited by TRICKSTER; 05-18-2011, 1:00 PM.


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        • #5
          ap3572001
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2007
          • 6039

          So I just write " FOR LEO ONLY?"

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          • #6
            TRICKSTER
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2008
            • 12438

            Originally posted by ap3572001
            So I just write " FOR LEO ONLY?"
            Or disassemble the mag and sell it as a parts/rebuild kit.


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            • #7
              ap3572001
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2007
              • 6039

              Whats a decent sale price for a 1995 FULL SIZE USP 45 VAR-I . In the box with everything and 5 factory magazines? ( 95-97% condition)? Thanks.

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              • #8
                rromeo
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2009
                • 6981

                About $600-700.
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                • #9
                  CSACANNONEER
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 44093

                  Section 12020, subdivision (b)(20) is largely self-explanatory. A
                  person who is properly identified as a reserve peace officer is a
                  “sworn peace officer.” If the reserve peace officer is also
                  “authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of his or
                  her duties,” the reserve peace officer can lawfully purchase a
                  large-capacity ammunition magazine in California.


                  Without a large capacity magazine permit, it is illegal for ANYONE in Ca. to offer for sale or sell +10 round magazines to anyone in any state. So, it would be illegal for a LEO to sell another LEO a +10 round mag. It is illegal to offer to sell +10 round mags to someone who is out of state and so on. Read the law and follow it to the letter. Or, loose your freedoms and possibly your pensions. IT's up to everyone to dicide for themselves but, again, it is ILLEGAL for a LEO to sell a +10 round mag to another LEO. Hell, it's even illegal for anyone to sell +10 round mags to a store with a large capacity mag permit. The holder of the permit can buy and sell +10 round mags. A LEO can BUY +10 round mags but, without a permit, nobody can sell +10 round mags to someone with a permit. It's really that simple and logical, isn't it?
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                  • #10
                    TRICKSTER
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 12438

                    12020
                    (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:

                    (20) The sale to, lending to, transfer to, purchase by, receipt
                    of, or importation into this state of, a large-capacity magazine by a
                    sworn peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with
                    Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 who is authorized to carry a
                    firearm in the course and scope of his or her duties.


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                    • #11
                      rromeo
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 6981

                      Sale to a peace officer is exempt in 12020.
                      Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

                      - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
                      (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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                      • #12
                        ap3572001
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 6039

                        Thanks!

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                        • #13
                          CSACANNONEER
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                          • Dec 2006
                          • 44093

                          Originally posted by rromeo
                          Sale to a peace officer is exempt in 12020.
                          If that is the case, why does any shop need a large capcity permit in order to SELL to LEOs? I really think there is more to this and would like to here from some of the legal minds around here.
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                          • #14
                            TRICKSTER
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 12438

                            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                            If that is the case, why does any shop need a large capcity permit in order to SELL to LEOs? I really think there is more to this and would like to here from some of the legal minds around here.
                            Because they need the permit to import the magazines into the state so they can sell them. No permit, no magazines to sell.


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                            • #15
                              CSACANNONEER
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                              • Dec 2006
                              • 44093

                              Originally posted by TRICKSTER
                              Because they need the permit to import the magazines into the state so they can sell them. No permit, no magazines to sell.
                              So, you are trying to tell me that anyone, without a permit, can sell +10 round mags to LEOs? Something tells me that this is incorrect.
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