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Elnielsen, I have been here since 2006 and I have seen quite a few threads about people getting their guns confiscated. It seems like atleast half of them start with, "So I was driving... got pulled over... Officer asked if I had guns in the car... I didn't want to lie and I have nothing to hide so I said yes". Then comes the getting out of the car parts, having the firearm checked for whether it is loaded, run serial, sometimes confiscate. I remember threads, mostly about ARs. There was something about a Saiga, and the DOJ a few years back had a hard on for lowers. Search "milpitas".
JS89, I am one of the most pro-LE, non-LE member here so don't take it as an attack. Police generally have a pretty good idea of the law but they aren't lawyers and many of them have the attitude of somewhere between I know the law and its up to the DA to prosecute. I have seen plenty of threads of LE clearly showing a lack of understanding of what is legal, giving out incorrect information, the occasional confiscation, requesting to see receipts for high caps, and running serials on rifles (non-AW aren't registered). So why would you confiscate? Well they are just doing their job, but not knowing the law. When I joined this forum an open magwell in an AR/AK/EBR ALWAYS meant AW. CGN will always be ahead of LE. LE don't keep up as closely as Calgunners do and many of them don't seem to be gun people. That isn't a knock on LE, that is just the way things are, they are a group united in enforcing the giant law book and we are united in everything guns. In this particular case, whether a gun is in the car or not has zero bearing in a vehicle that has a tailight out. I get that a lot of wanted people are caught from simple traffic stops or other silly reasons for LE to make contact and they usually then submit to searches or admit to warrants, that is just how your business works. But in this event, to answer that question, or answer that question honestly, or answer that question directly stands to put the citizen onto a rougher road IMO. Why does it matter if there is a weapon in the car? Are you phishing for a reason to search? Is running the plates or the ID not enough? Aren't CCW holders in CA required to notify the officer in the event of a stop? Shouldn't you treat all stops as potentially dangerous regardless of whether or not you ask or whether or not the answer is yes or no?
JS89, I am one of the most pro-LE, non-LE member here so don't take it as an attack. Police generally have a pretty good idea of the law but they aren't lawyers and many of them have the attitude of somewhere between I know the law and its up to the DA to prosecute. I have seen plenty of threads of LE clearly showing a lack of understanding of what is legal, giving out incorrect information, the occasional confiscation, requesting to see receipts for high caps, and running serials on rifles (non-AW aren't registered). So why would you confiscate? Well they are just doing their job, but not knowing the law. When I joined this forum an open magwell in an AR/AK/EBR ALWAYS meant AW. CGN will always be ahead of LE. LE don't keep up as closely as Calgunners do and many of them don't seem to be gun people. That isn't a knock on LE, that is just the way things are, they are a group united in enforcing the giant law book and we are united in everything guns. In this particular case, whether a gun is in the car or not has zero bearing in a vehicle that has a tailight out. I get that a lot of wanted people are caught from simple traffic stops or other silly reasons for LE to make contact and they usually then submit to searches or admit to warrants, that is just how your business works. But in this event, to answer that question, or answer that question honestly, or answer that question directly stands to put the citizen onto a rougher road IMO. Why does it matter if there is a weapon in the car? Are you phishing for a reason to search? Is running the plates or the ID not enough? Aren't CCW holders in CA required to notify the officer in the event of a stop? Shouldn't you treat all stops as potentially dangerous regardless of whether or not you ask or whether or not the answer is yes or no?
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