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  • unclemike55
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 4

    helping a friend

    My ex and her sister are both really good friends of mine and they just gave me a taurus 38 special last night belongs to their dad, just for safe keeping. Their dad is a good friend of mine too. Their dad has developed a drinking problem, is irresposible with a gun and has had suicidal thoughts as of lately. Like I said I'm holding it for safe keeping until the suicidal problem is resolved. I am legally able to own a gun and I do own many my self. I want to know, if I have a chance of getting in trouble for helping these friends out. Thank You
  • #2
    NOTARPilot
    Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 407

    No.

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    • #3
      GrizzlyGuy
      Gun Runner to The Stars
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • May 2009
      • 5468

      In terms of the law, the dad has loaned you his handgun (see here). I assume you have a handgun safety certificate. The duration of the loan is limited to 30 days. If you need to keep the gun for more than 30 days, the dad could always PPT it to you and you could PPT it back later.

      Would you get into any trouble if those conditions were violated, but you were otherwise law abiding and not prohibited from owning or possessing firearms? Probably not, but the best way to avoid legal trouble is to stay within the law in the first place.
      Gun law complexity got you down? Get the FAQs, Jack!

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      • #4
        hitman13
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 3793

        Does dad know you have his gun??

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        • #5
          unclemike55
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 4

          Nope

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          • #6
            1911su16b870
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Dec 2006
            • 7654

            Sounds like the daughters took the firearm from the father without his knowledge...that could be problematic for you if the father wants his gun and finds out you have it and then reports it to the police as stolen with you as the culprit.

            Do the sisters live with the father and normally have access to the firearm?

            Did the father transfer the firearm to one of the daughters?
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            • #7
              tyrist
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 4564

              What you have just reported on a public forum is that you have committed multiple felonies.

              Grand theft firearm.
              Receiving stolen property.
              Possession of a stolen firearm.

              Way to go.

              If the dad is suicidal real help needs to be given not just a hope for the best attitude. If they feel strongly he is going to kill himself the police should be called and yes his firearm would be LAWFULLY seized.
              Last edited by tyrist; 04-02-2011, 11:31 PM.

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              • #8
                G1500
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 1825

                Originally posted by tyrist
                If the dad is suicidal real help needs to be given not just a hope for the best attitude. If they feel strongly he is going to kill himself the police should be called and yes his firearm would be LAWFULLY seized.
                Ask if they would kindly have him gift it to the daughter, and have them PPT it to the OP. Why let a good gun go to waste.

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                • #9
                  tyrist
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 4564

                  Originally posted by G1500
                  Ask if they would kindly have him gift it to the daughter, and have them PPT it to the OP. Why let a good gun go to waste.
                  When you are worried a family member is going to be committing suicide; concerns about the disposition of a firearm is irrelevant.

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                  • #10
                    G1500
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1825

                    Originally posted by tyrist
                    When you are worried a family member is going to be committing suicide; concerns about the disposition of a firearm is irrelevant.
                    Then giving it to a friend to hang on to for safe keeping, so after the father is taken care of, can have his firearm back?

                    Doubtful, if that was truly the situation, they should have called the police, reported it, surrendered the firearm and had the father helped.

                    Of course, IF that was the number one priority.

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                    • #11
                      Notorious
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4695

                      The legal technical way is to report the 5150 and have the weapon surrendered until he is adjudicated okay or if not, then it will have to be disposed of.

                      The daughters can have the weapon transferred by operation of law without a PPT.

                      I would have the daughter buy a pistol safe for $50 and lock it up at home and you stay out of it.
                      I like guns

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                      • #12
                        tyrist
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 4564

                        Originally posted by Notorious
                        The legal technical way is to report the 5150 and have the weapon surrendered until he is adjudicated okay or if not, then it will have to be disposed of.

                        The daughters can have the weapon transferred by operation of law without a PPT.

                        I would have the daughter buy a pistol safe for $50 and lock it up at home and you stay out of it.
                        Agreed 100%

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                        • #13
                          BayAreaShooter
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 5054

                          Since the daughters took it without his knowledge then gave it to you a few problems have arose. I don't want to scare you but possible felonies. Now i'm not saying you did the right thing but as a poster said above have the daughter get a safe and lock it up in their home not yours.
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                          • #14
                            tyrist
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 4564

                            Originally posted by BayAreaShooter
                            Since the daughters took it without his knowledge then gave it to you a few problems have arose. I don't want to scare you but possible felonies. Now i'm not saying you did the right thing but as a poster said above have the daughter get a safe and lock it up in their home not yours.
                            Be honest with him, if the dad gets pissed off he's going to jail and will have expensive legal bills.

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                            • #15
                              Notorious
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 4695

                              Originally posted by tyrist
                              Be honest with him, if the dad gets pissed off he's going to jail and will have expensive legal bills.
                              Hey... maybe he's trying to get "some" by being the nice guy... guys do some extreme things when there's the right incentive.
                              I like guns

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