CA Police Using Mobile Fingerprinting Tech?

[Danz la Nuit]

So the obvious question is...

Can you decline to have your finger scanned if you're not under arrest?

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2011/03/09/roseville-police-using-mobile-fingerprinting-tech/

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[cacop]

At my department these are used to ID people who do not have ID on their person and would otherwise go to jail if they did not do the fingerprint scan. You can either do it in the field or at jail. Your choice.

Other departments may vary.

[alex00]

Although my Department doesn't have these kinds of scanners, I'll take a thumb print if I'm issuing a citation and the person doesn't have ID. I'd use the scanner if I had one available. One doesn't necessarily need to be under arrest to be required to produce ID. However, if someone gives a name and starts giving indications of deception it may be acceptable to use this scanner to verify their identity. I can't envision too many scenarios where someone not suspected of an infraction/misd/felony would be compelled to give a print. If the LEO has a legitimate demand for a person to identify themselves, the above scanner would probably be appropriate.

[FailedAngrMgmt]

At my department these are used to ID people who do not have ID on their person and would otherwise go to jail if they did not do the fingerprint scan. You can either do it in the field or at jail. Your choice.

Other departments may vary.

this...for my department too....

[oddjob]

Some friends of mine used one to I.D. a fella who was hit by a train. He tried to get his backpack when a train was approaching. He wasn't under arrest, but they did I.D. what was left of him. Worked well.

[MaHoTex]

At my department these are used to ID people who do not have ID on their person and would otherwise go to jail if they did not do the fingerprint scan. You can either do it in the field or at jail. Your choice.

Other departments may vary.

I did not know we risk arrest and/or jail if we did not "carry papers" for identification.

[Ron-Solo]

I did not know we risk arrest and/or jail if we did not "carry papers" for identification.

If you are being issued a citation for a traffic violation, and you can not provide satisfactory identification, you are subject to arrest.

The arrest is for the traffic violation, and since you can't ID yourself, you can't be released on a promise to appear. You go to the pokey to get identified, adn then you usually get released on that same ticket once your identity has been established.

You don't go to jail for simply walking down the street and not having "papers" as you put it.

I get sick of all the insinuations related to Nazi Germany. It gets old.

[MaHoTex]

The comment from "cacop" was not about a traffic stop from what I could tell. My response was intended to be about walking down the street and having to produce papers upon request.

Immigrants have to carry, and produce on demand, papers... Driving or not.

Though my comment was indeed to insinuate similarities to WWII germany, I did not think it was going to "push the button" so to speak. That was not my intent with this post; though, I have been known to do that from time to time.

I was once stopped and forgot I have left my license at home: DOH! The officer gave me my fast driving award and put my finger print on the "certificate" Guess I am lucky I did not get hauled away. That was an honest mistake. When I realized I left it at home, I was like "Oh $4!*" :EEK:

[Spanky8601]

I was once stopped and forgot I have left my license at home: DOH! The officer gave me my fast driving award and put my finger print on the "certificate" Guess I am lucky I did not get hauled away. That was an honest mistake. When I realized I left it at home, I was like "Oh $4!*" :EEK:

The officer must have believed or verified your stated identification. This is the section the officers use:

40302. Whenever any person is arrested for any violation of this
code, not declared to be a felony, the arrested person shall be taken
without unnecessary delay before a magistrate within the county in
which the offense charged is alleged to have been committed and who
has jurisdiction of the offense and is nearest or most accessible
with reference to the place where the arrest is made in any of the
following cases:
(a) When the person arrested fails to present his driver's license
or other satisfactory evidence of his identity for examination.
(b) When the person arrested refuses to give his written promise
to appear in court.
(c) When the person arrested demands an immediate appearance
before a magistrate.
(d) When the person arrested is charged with violating Section
23152.

[MaHoTex]

I was just around the corner from my house too. I asked him if he wanted to follow me around the corner to my house so I could get my license. He declined. Looking back, now I understand why he did not follow me home. I was a young naive kid at the time. Now I am just old and sorta wiser I guess. I do not remember how he verified my identity, but I would imagine I gave him my name, and my license number, and was driving the vehicle that was registered to me. Suppose it could have turned out much different.

All in all, my experiences with LEO has been good, and I got the just reward which I had earned at the time. I did get one warning in all of my driving years. I accidently ran through a light.

The story goes like this...

There I was sitting at an intersection waiting to go straight, left hand arrow goes green, so I go... straight... argh... LEO was in the car behind me. I went through the intersection and immediatly pulled over and waited for him. He just told me to pay better attention and sent me on my way. He never even turned on his red & blues. That was the only time I got a warning.

[J_B]

Although my Department doesn't have these kinds of scanners

Not yet BUT we had the IT nerdy Sgt out with us up North last week or the week before and he had the thumbprint scanner thingie mabob doohickie......