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  • Subotai
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2010
    • 11289

    POST 832 PC & buying handgun

    Back in 84-85, I graduated from the reserve academy. I have the certificate from that. But it doesn't state 832 on it. Can I use my old cert to buy a pistol? Or do I have to prove 832 somehow to get an exemption from the HSC?
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    Falconis
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1688

    i don't think it applied unless your reserve duty is still current. I would think your Dept. ID would be sufficient. I could be wrong on this.

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    • #3
      socalblue
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 811

      Originally posted by frankm
      Back in 84-85, I graduated from the reserve academy. I have the certificate from that. But it doesn't state 832 on it. Can I use my old cert to buy a pistol? Or do I have to prove 832 somehow to get an exemption from the HSC?
      You should have two certificates: academy graduation & 832. If you are still active as a reserve your ID works just as well.

      You can get a copy of your 832 cert from your department or POST if needed.

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      • #4
        Subotai
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        • Jun 2010
        • 11289

        Great info. Thanks guys.
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        • #5
          Steveo8
          Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 319

          I just used mine to make a purchase last October. I took the class about the same time early 80's but never became a reserve. It does have to be the arrest and firearms certificate if I remember correctly and it never expires.
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          • #6
            Notorious
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 4695

            It doesn't ever expire. The exemption sheet only says you need to have taken the class, and does not talk about dates. I have done that once in between jobs a long time ago and just walked in to the store with a copy of my academy certificate and bought a handgun without going through the HSC crap.

            The police ID gives you a different exemption than the academy certificate exemption. Then you have military exemptions, hunter safety exemptions, and a bunch of other ones... I think there are over 30 exemptions.
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            • #7
              Subotai
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              • Jun 2010
              • 11289

              Is it assumed by gun stores that if you have an academy cert, you also have 832 PC?
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              • #8
                Notorious
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 4695

                The full academy includes a 832PC component and the stores I dealt with knew it. You might want to call ahead and confirm so you don't get hassled when you show up.
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                • #9
                  avalon42
                  Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 250

                  Originally posted by frankm
                  Is it assumed by gun stores that if you have an academy cert, you also have 832 PC?
                  If they can't assume, have them look it up. I used my Level III certificate to meet the waiver (have up to L-II though).

                  The PC 832 Arrest and Firearms Course is the minimum training standard for California peace officers.


                  From POST website:

                  This training may be met by successful completion of a basic training course (e.g., Regular Basic Course, Specialized Investigators' Basic Course, and Level III Modular Format Course) or as a separate stand-alone certified course.

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                  • #10
                    CSDGuy
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 3763

                    The only part that is required for the exemption is the PC 832 Firearms portion. If you are able to take that course without taking the Arrest portion, that's fine. You're still exempt. I'd imagine that most of the time you'd be required by the training center to take the Arrest part before they'll allow you to take the Firearms part.

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                    • #11
                      Notorious
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4695

                      PC832 used to be a 40 hour stand alone course at Rio Hondo. I think it was called the "Powers of Arrest" course.
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                      • #12
                        RollingCode3
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 3221

                        PC832 has two parts. LAW/POWER of Arrest is 40 hours and FIREARMS is 24 hours.
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                        • #13
                          CSDGuy
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 3763

                          Originally posted by Notorious
                          PC832 used to be a 40 hour stand alone course at Rio Hondo. I think it was called the "Powers of Arrest" course.
                          The 40 hour portion is what gives you the minimum training to exercise peace officer powers... the 24 hour Firearms portion is what gives you the training to carry a firearm on duty, at the minimum.
                          Originally posted by RollingCode3
                          PC832 has two parts. LAW/POWER of Arrest is 40 hours and FIREARMS is 24 hours.
                          Law/Power of arrest can also be known as "PC 832 Arrest, Search, and Seizure." PC 832 used to be also be known as Level III module I.

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                          • #14
                            avalon42
                            Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 250

                            Originally posted by CSDGuy
                            The 40 hour portion is what gives you the minimum training to exercise peace officer powers... the 24 hour Firearms portion is what gives you the training to carry a firearm on duty, at the minimum.

                            Law/Power of arrest can also be known as "PC 832 Arrest, Search, and Seizure." PC 832 used to be also be known as Level III module I.
                            Yup, back when they had the Reserve Modules in A, B, C, D format. Gotta love how POST keeps changing stuff.

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                            • #15
                              Notorious
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 4695

                              Originally posted by avalon42
                              Yup, back when they had the Reserve Modules in A, B, C, D format. Gotta love how POST keeps changing stuff.
                              Forget the A-D format. It used to be the Level I, II or III format and you can take Module D to bridge to a full certificate if you had a Level I.

                              So it became a 1+D which mixed both alphabet and numbers. Only in CA.
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