30 day wait

[robert060907]

My cousin just graduated today from corrections academy and he asked me if he had to wait 30 days before purchasing new pistols like civilians do. I am not LEO, so I told him I would ask my calgun brothers. Thanks in advance for your response.

[tacticalcity]

The way you phrased the question it almost makes it sound like you think their is a 30 day DROS waiting period before you can pick up a handgun. It is only 10, and law enforcement are exempt from that waiting period last time I checked.

If we just bought a handgun from a store or FFL. Under those circumstances we can only buy 1 at a time, can pick it up in 10 days, and have to wait 30 days before we go back in and buy another handgun. I am not certain if LEOs are exempt from the 30 day part, but they are exempt from the 10 day part. Sorry.

If we do a PPT (both you and a private seller go to the FFL together) you can by more than one handgun off that person at once. Civilians still have to wait 10 days before picking up their purchases, LEOs are exempt. Not sure how or even if the 30 day wait before more hangun purchases comes into play here.

If the seller ships the handgun to you, then same rules apply as if you were buying it from the Store or FFL. 1 at a time, 10 days before civlians can pick it up, and 30 days before they can buy another handgun. LEOs are exempt from the 10 day part, but I am not sure if they are exempt from the 30 day part.

Sorry if I am not being helpful enough. Somebody else will come along and clarify it further.

[Blademan21]

LEO only exempt form the 10 day wait if a department letter is presented at time of purchase. No letter,10 day wait. I have not done it,but I believe LEOs are exempt from the 1 gun per 30 days. Rolling Code 3 may know the answer to that .

[Ron-Solo]

Exemption from 10 day wait requires a letter from the Dept specifically authorizing the waiver of the 10 day wait. LE are exempt from the 1 in 30 days restriction. I've only utilized it once, since i rarely have enough money to buy two.

To the OP, some corrections officers have peace officer statues (CDCR) but many do not. It varies by jurisdiction/agency.

[The Director]

I really hate to belabor the point but to the OP - LEOs are civilians.


Carry on.

[TRICKSTER]

I really hate to belabor the point but to the OP - LEOs are civilians.


Carry on.

[BigDogatPlay]

From Word IQ:
In interactions between certain professions, especially such public service ones as police and fire protection, a civilian also describes a person not part of the profession. "Civilian" is also known to be used by models, federal bureaucrats, and historically, by vaudevillians to describe those outside of their respective professions.

It's also been used through the years by mob guys and outlaw bikers to describe anyone outside the brotherhood.

[brianm767]

My cousin just graduated today from corrections academy and he asked me if he had to wait 30 days before purchasing new pistols like civilians do. I am not LEO, so I told him I would ask my calgun brothers. Thanks in advance for your response.

Is he a California Dept of Corrections Officer? or a corrections officer from a specific county/sheriffs dept?

Ca Dept of Corrections are considered LEO, but many Correction officers with different police/Sherrif depts are not exempt from the 1 & 30 or able to purchase off roster guns.

My son is a Deputy Sherrif and is of course LEO, and his girlfriend is a corrections officer with the same county, she is not roster exempt or 1&30 exempt, and she can not carry concealed without a Ca CCW.

[ke6guj]

I really hate to belabor the point but to the OP - LEOs are civilians.


Carry on.

depending on which defintion of Civilian you use, LEOs may or may not be considered civilians. If you want to take the position that LEOs are civilians, what term would you have us use to describe those civilians that are not LEOs?

[Triad]

I really hate to belabor the point but to the OP - LEOs are civilians.


Carry on.

Really dude?

[Watchur6]

More info. Is needed to answer the question correctly. I am to a correctional officer/peace officer per. 830.5 and am exempt from the 30/1. As we Begin as CO's in my dept. and can eventually go out into the street as P.O.'s but our 830.5 status stays the same. Once again more info. Is needed.

[RollingCode3]

LEO only exempt form the 10 day wait if a department letter is presented at time of purchase. No letter,10 day wait. I have not done it,but I believe LEOs are exempt from the 1 gun per 30 days. Rolling Code 3 may know the answer to that .

Lol. Before I knew about the law, I bought a Glock 19 at Proforce. I waited 30 days and came back to pick up another one. The guy there thought I was high on crack and asked why did I have to wait 30 days to purchase another one. He told me that peace officers are exempt from 1 per 30 days rule. I bought 3 Glocks that month.

You need department letterhead to exempt from the 10 days wait. They ask me that question everytime I purchase a new gun at Proforce.

[Notorious]

Merriam-Websters also define it the same way. Police are not civilians. We are civilian police in the same vein as MP's are military police. The term is to describe WHO we are policing.

We police the civilians while the MP's police the military. We are not civilians, but a paramilitary arm of the government with a specific task to protect and maintain order. Before it gets to another police are an occupational army BS thread... we are the police, we are not the military.

[CSACANNONEER]

depending on which defintion of Civilian you use, LEOs may or may not be considered civilians. If you want to take the position that LEOs are civilians, what term would you have us use to describe those civilians that are not LEOs?

Don't most LEOs call them "criminals"?





J/K

[BigDogatPlay]

Is he a California Dept of Corrections Officer? or a corrections officer from a specific county/sheriffs dept?

Ca Dept of Corrections are considered LEO, but many Correction officers with different police/Sherrif depts are not exempt from the 1 & 30 or able to purchase off roster guns.

My son is a Deputy Sherrif and is of course LEO, and his girlfriend is a corrections officer with the same county, she is not roster exempt or 1&30 exempt, and she can not carry concealed without a Ca CCW.

Another way to put it would be that your son is a peace officer, while his girlfriend is a correctional officer who may have limited peace officer powers while on duty. The "LEO exemptions" in the Penal Code are specifically for full time, full authority peace officers as defined in the Penal Code.

Correctional officers for CDCR have full peace officer status under PC 830.5.