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  • Gberberian
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 582

    A Candidate in progress, has a question for LEO's.

    I have 10 firearms; of course they are legal. My backrounds date is coming up and Im kinda nervous about my backround investigating officer to think that im a psycho or something that I have 10 firearms. 7 of them are World War 2 rifles though. Do backround officers despise Firearms Collectors? Thank you, God Bless.
  • #2
    SoCalDep
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 815

    When I applied I owned around 20 plus guns...I think 15 were handguns. Be honest and explain your interest from a historical (or competitive, hunting, etc.) Standpoint and you'll be just fine.

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    • #3
      tyrist
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 4564

      He will want all serial numbers to make sure you don't have anything your not suppose to have.

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      • #4
        SoCalDep
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 815

        Originally posted by tyrist
        He will want all serial numbers to make sure you don't have anything your not suppose to have.
        Mine didn't, and I'd have been a little ticked off if they did. It's none of their business...

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        • #5
          IrishJoe3
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 3804

          Originally posted by Gberberian
          I have 10 firearms; of course they are legal. My backrounds date is coming up and Im kinda nervous about my backround investigating officer to think that im a psycho or something that I have 10 firearms. 7 of them are World War 2 rifles though. Do backround officers despise Firearms Collectors? Thank you, God Bless.
          Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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          • #6
            IrishJoe3
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 3804

            Originally posted by SoCalDep
            Mine didn't, and I'd have been a little ticked off if they did. It's none of their business...
            Ditto that
            Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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            • #7
              Gberberian
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 582

              Well, I am applying for the sweet city of Los Angeles; However, I am required to provide the Investigators the information. I did list all the information on the firearms. I have more question, On my German Kar98K and my Japanese Arisaka; There is no importer serial number like you would see on Big 5 mosin nagants (Century Arms International's Mosins) . Would it be ok to put the numbers that are already stamped on reciever of the gun? I want to say they're brought backs, but im not sure.

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              • #8
                non sequitur
                Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 362

                The POST Peace Officer Personal History Statement doesn't contain a request for information regarding a candiate's firearms ownership. However, many LE agencies require Peace Officer candiates to fill out an additional, second mini-background packet that is agency-specific. In this questionnaire, the Agency will require the Peace Officer applicant to list ALL firearms owned (including serial numbers).

                Our BIs (background investigators) then ran the serial numbers thru the CA DOJ Automated Firearms System to check for stolen firearms. The BIs will also run YOU thru several federal, state and local databases to double check how many firearms are actually registered to you.

                I worked in backgrounds for a while and never saw a Peace Officer applicant DQ'd for owning too many weapons. However, I did discover that even after transferring/selling a firearm, the DOJ AFS system would still have the original transferor (is that a word?) listed as the registered owner.

                If the applicant listed any weapons, I would encourage the applicant to do this:



                If the DOJ AFS list had any discrepancies, then I encouraged the applicant to fill out one of these for each weapon:



                Good luck!
                A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

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                • #9
                  Notorious
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 4703

                  I have more than you and only 1 department made a big deal of it and asked and I told them that I collect guns. Other than that, nobody else asked and nobody cared.
                  I like guns

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                  • #10
                    ankyle62
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1449

                    Originally posted by SoCalDep
                    Mine didn't, and I'd have been a little ticked off if they did. It's none of their business...
                    None of their business? I thought my whole life was spread eagle for them to look at during background lol.

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                    • #11
                      Foriegn power
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1035

                      They just ask and list what make and model that is it.

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                      • #12
                        homerm14
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 630

                        When I went through backgrounds (many moons ago) I had more than 50 guns. I was honest, and it was no problem.

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                        • #13
                          Gberberian
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 582

                          Well yeah, Honesty is not the issue here I got to Thank you all for tips and advise and the stress releave lol. Thank you for the Links Sequitur!

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                          • #14
                            TrailerparkTrash
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 4249

                            Originally posted by non sequitur
                            Our BIs (background investigators) then ran the serial numbers thru the CA DOJ Automated Firearms System to check for stolen firearms. The BIs will also run YOU thru several federal, state and local databases to double check how many firearms are actually registered to you.
                            Cal DOJ AFS only has handguns as "registered" weapons and registered "assault weapons" in the data base. They do not have long guns in their data base, unless a person voluntarily registered those long guns with the Cal DOJ on form FD 4542A ("Firearm Ownership Record"). 99% of gun owners never have volunteered to register their long guns and I personally don't want the government to know more than they already know about me.

                            As far as a K98 or any other WWII long gun (not counting machine guns and/or AW's, etc...) the LE agency the OP is applying for will never know unless the LE applicant discloses that info to the department he's applying with. Personally, I'd only list the registered handguns I have and that's it. It's not a big deal, seeing how anybody that has purchased a handgun in Cali (legitimately) is already in the AFS system with those handguns.
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                            • #15
                              dls
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 2598

                              Dang! I JUST turned in my CCW paperwork today, and I've bought 5 just in the last 12-15 months !! a blk shotgun, blk.223 and 3 handguns, It never occurred to me that it would be an issue.??
                              The chair is against the wall...

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