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  • #31
    BigDogatPlay
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2007
    • 7362

    Originally posted by Jack L
    Anyway Sergeant Friday told Frank his partner after they busted a bad cop; "When you have to recruit from the human race, you're going to get a few bad apples" I always love that quote.
    That one came from Chief Parker... and it's as true now as it was when he first said it. It's the one thing that a lot of people outside the business don't take into account.
    -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

    Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

    Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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    • #32
      POLICESTATE
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Apr 2009
      • 18185

      Desperate times + desperate people = desperate behavior.

      Now add the mainstream media in and you've got a sensation!
      -POLICESTATE,
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      • #33
        coyotebait
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1319

        I am NOT leo, however several of my friends and family are. I've heard the stories and seen the news. I believe there IS a war on cops being waged. Officer deaths up almost 40% from '09 to '10. Stay safe, and WEAR YOU VESTS!!!
        R.I.P. Chris Kyle. 2/2/13

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        • #34
          altxf4
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2006
          • 1235

          Originally posted by coyotebait
          I am NOT leo, however several of my friends and family are. I've heard the stories and seen the news. I believe there IS a war on cops being waged. Officer deaths up almost 40% from '09 to '10. Stay safe, and WEAR YOU VESTS!!!
          Same here as my Dad is retired Roseville PD.

          If I ever see a LEO in distress I Wont just stand by!
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          • #35
            Falconis
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 1688

            I place blame on our media and the liberal politics of *Hug-A-Thug*. Between these 2 factors, the problem of thugs in our society has been boiling for some time. With the media blaming cops for everything from excessive force to not being caring enough, and politicians coddling the thugs and making speeches on how turdball is a victim of society or whatever, these sorts of assaults will escalate. (NOTE: I am NOT saying all cops are free and clear of everything). It also never helps when politicians sell out the cops for a media sensational blitz before any investigations are completed.

            I got a chance to take a trip to a red county a few years ago here in this state, and a red voting state this past summer. I can tell you the difference it makes when the media is held to the fire for making sensationalized stories at the public's expense and when Politicians actually grow a backbone. When I say public's expense, I am talking about all the stories they air saying ohhh look how bad this *citizen* is being treated, then a few days later making a small correction on their previous *investigative journalism* or adding the fact that said citizen is out of prison for the 4th time.

            I've pretty much since cancelled any and all newspaper subscriptions I've had and wrote to the newspapers as to why. Will it make a difference in this area, probably not.

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            • #36
              UncleKRob
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 7

              Such a tragedy that so many public servants are being killed; being a former Marine, I can definitely understand how the loss of a brother/sister impacts an individual. Not being an LEO, my question is what, if anything, are the departments doing to combat the increase in fatal cop shootings???

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              • #37
                ZombieTactics
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 3691

                There is definitely a war on cops being waged. Unfortunately, my take on it is that about half of that war is being waged by administrators and politicians who underfund staffing, equipment and training budgets to a ridiculous degree.
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                • #38
                  coyotebait
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1319

                  Originally posted by UncleKRob
                  Not being an LEO, my question is what, if anything, are the departments doing to combat the increase in fatal cop shootings???
                  Well, in Oakland they're laying off cops. In Simi Valley, they're giving cops a 7% pay cut, retroactive back to their last contract deal. I'm sure these aren't the only ones, just the ones that I actually know about.
                  R.I.P. Chris Kyle. 2/2/13

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                  • #39
                    UncleKRob
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 7

                    Originally posted by coyotebait
                    Well, in Oakland they're laying off cops. In Simi Valley, they're giving cops a 7% pay cut, retroactive back to their last contract deal. I'm sure these aren't the only ones, just the ones that I actually know about.

                    Ahhhhhhh I get it now: they're giving the badguys fewer cops to shoot at...

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                    • #40
                      Notorious
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4697

                      Originally posted by UncleKRob
                      Such a tragedy that so many public servants are being killed; being a former Marine, I can definitely understand how the loss of a brother/sister impacts an individual. Not being an LEO, my question is what, if anything, are the departments doing to combat the increase in fatal cop shootings???
                      We can't do anything other than provide more training and awareness. Maybe issue a memo to mandate wearing soft armor... try to double up on patrol... you know... reactive stuff.

                      Police departments cannot do anything to proactively combat someone who wants to kill you. We don't get to take out a perceived threat like the military can. Our use of deadly force is only in response to a deadly threat.

                      So while we can help our officers to become more aware and better trained to deal with the problem, we don't get to actually do anything proactively to deal with the threat.
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                      • #41
                        Jack L
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 1721

                        Originally posted by Notorious
                        We can't do anything other than provide more training and awareness. Maybe issue a memo to mandate wearing soft armor... try to double up on patrol... you know... reactive stuff.

                        Police departments cannot do anything to proactively combat someone who wants to kill you. We don't get to take out a perceived threat like the military can. Our use of deadly force is only in response to a deadly threat.

                        So while we can help our officers to become more aware and better trained to deal with the problem, we don't get to actually do anything proactively to deal with the threat.

                        A+. I am all for paying whatever is cost for officers to be doubled up in any area that is even remotely questionable, especially at night when the vermin seem to slither around. After all, one LEO down or delayed is one less LEO to be at a scene helping a citizen. If we want reasonable protection, we need to provide reasonable recourses. If the population continues to grow and the threats continue to rise, I envision someday all cruisers will be armored. Not kidding either. At least it would provide a safe area to retreat to or say within.

                        I keep dreaming the future will be like a Mad Max movie.

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