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  • ironcross
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 726

    Lateral Status

    Okay LEO’s,
    How does one obtain Lateral status? I was reading via Southwestern Collage that if I put myself threw the academy that I could obtain Lateral status.

    Then I had a Deputy friend state that, that wouldn’t grant me lateral status.
    Originally posted by SDSD Deputy
    Putting yourself through an academy such as Southwesterns, or the San Diego Regional as an open enrollee does not grant you lateral status
    Yet on the collages site it does….

    This is the most confusing subject that I can’t figure out.

    As I am thinking on putting myself threw the academy.

    My goal is to get hired with the SDSD (San Diego County Sheriff's Department).

    Any information is appreciated.
    -Mark
    I'm not a LEO nor Lawyer, none of what I say can nor should be used as legal advice.
  • #2
    waitwha?
    Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 200

    I am NOT a LEO but have applied to an agency and hope to become a LEO.

    To my understanding, there is a recruit who has no level of law enforcement training(or could be in the academy), academy graduate who is someone who has graduated from the academy but not passed probation at a department, and a lateral is someone who has graduated from the academy and has passed the 1 year probation at a department.

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    • #3
      Recession
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 1565

      From my understanding, lateral means transferring from a different department/agency.

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      • #4
        Spanky8601
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 2275

        California Agencies follow the rules laid out by POST. In order to obtain a lateral you must possess a Basic Certificate. This means you must have passed probation. If you go through an academy you will be what is considered "Academy Trained", which may or may not get you a second look.

        May I always be the type of person my dog thinks I am

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        • #5
          ckim34
          Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 408

          pass probation with an agency, obtain your basic, and then you can be considered a lateral

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          • #6
            ironcross
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 726

            Well, From the college here:

            Originally posted by Southwestern College
            The Southwestern College Basic Academy offers the opportunity to train part-time, so education is gained and you, as a peace officer candidate, will qualify as a “lateral entry” candidate with the basic academy certificate. The Southwestern College Basic Academy is fully sanctioned by the Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training (P.O.S.T.) of California.
            From: http://www.swccd.edu/Pdfs/Applicatio...n_1-1-2010.pdf

            Was something misread??

            My Deputy Friend said that it was wrong and lateral status doesn't apply to the above. Also that Miramar college aka the Regional Academy is 6 months vs Southwestern that is 14 months??

            I know that passing the academy via Miramar or Southwestern gives you POST Basic.
            Last edited by ironcross; 01-10-2011, 12:38 AM.
            I'm not a LEO nor Lawyer, none of what I say can nor should be used as legal advice.

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            • #7
              ckim34
              Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 408

              Originally posted by ironcross
              Well, From the college here:



              From: http://www.swccd.edu/Pdfs/Applicatio...n_1-1-2010.pdf

              Was something misread??

              My Deputy Friend said that it was wrong and lateral status doesn't apply to the above. Also that Miramar college aka the Regional Academy is 6 months vs Southwestern that is 14 months??

              I know that passing the academy via Miramar or Southwestern gives you POST Basic.
              The Southwestern College is wrong you are not a lateral if you graduate from an academy. You MUST pass probation with an agency in order to be considered a lateral if you apply with another agency.

              Most academies are around 22-26 weeks. Is the Southwestern one a part time academy?

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              • #8
                ironcross
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 726

                Originally posted by ckim34
                The Southwestern College is wrong you are not a lateral if you graduate from an academy. You MUST pass probation with an agency in order to be considered a lateral if you apply with another agency.

                Most academies are around 22-26 weeks. Is the Southwestern one a part time academy?
                Part time as it is on you to be there yes. I know that if say the SDSD puts you threw the academy you get paid and have to be there for 6 months (For LE/Patrol and 3 months for Court Services / Detentions). From 0700-1700 including Saturdays via Miramar.

                They got accredited for LE Academy not too long ago via the State.

                Also hosting 35 Cadets during it's first semester.

                I'm just trying to have backup routes if the fresh applicants are closed/froze with all my ducks in a row. Plus I rather not have to drive up to north county and back to the border area every day.

                I appreciate all your guys info. Please if we could get a definitive answer as in if Southwestern is wrong. Because I've been in midfield with it.

                Appreciate it
                -Mark.
                Last edited by ironcross; 01-10-2011, 1:13 AM.
                I'm not a LEO nor Lawyer, none of what I say can nor should be used as legal advice.

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                • #9
                  5shot
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 1265

                  "Lateral Transfer" means just that. You "transfer" laterally from one law enforcement agency to the other.
                  John Bishop
                  Member: NRA Life, CRPA, WEGC

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                  • #10
                    ckim34
                    Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 408

                    Originally posted by ironcross
                    Part time as it is on you to be there yes. I know that if say the SDSD puts you threw the academy you get paid and have to be there for 6 months (For LE/Patrol and 3 months for Court Services / Detentions). From 0700-1700 including Saturdays via Miramar.

                    They got accredited for LE Academy not too long ago via the State.

                    Also hosting 35 Cadets during it's first semester.

                    I'm just trying to have backup routes if the fresh applicants are closed/froze with all my ducks in a row. Plus I rather not have to drive up to north county and back to the border area every day.

                    I appreciate all your guys info. Please if we could get a definitive answer as in if Southwestern is wrong. Because I've been in midfield with it.

                    Appreciate it
                    -Mark.
                    Not trying to be a jerk but its been answered a few times. Southwestern is wrong. If it helps to convince you more I'm a LEO.

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                    • #11
                      Ron-Solo
                      In Memoriam
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 8581

                      Originally posted by ckim34
                      Not trying to be a jerk but its been answered a few times. Southwestern is wrong. If it helps to convince you more I'm a LEO.
                      Lateral means you possess a basic POST certificicate. You have to have 1 year as a peace officer after graduating a POST certified academy and complete probation.

                      Southwest's info is WRONG. Sorry
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                      • #12
                        ironcross
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 726

                        Originally posted by ckim34
                        Not trying to be a jerk but its been answered a few times. Southwestern is wrong. If it helps to convince you more I'm a LEO.
                        Its not that I don't believe you.

                        Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                        Lateral means you possess a basic POST certificicate. You have to have 1 year as a peace officer after graduating a POST certified academy and complete probation.

                        Southwest's info is WRONG. Sorry
                        Its just I want to have all my ducks in a row. Because at this point in time the SDSD is only hiring lateral's.

                        I'm able to get 50%-75% off the academy threw my fathers VA benefits. One of the reasons on putting myself threw the academy is some what a viable option.

                        If you wouldn't mind then. Could you point me in the right direction on the literature on the matter.IE where is officially stated on how to get hired with a LEA as someone whom completed a LE Academy and POST Basic.

                        Stay safe out there,
                        -Mark
                        Last edited by ironcross; 01-10-2011, 2:45 AM.
                        I'm not a LEO nor Lawyer, none of what I say can nor should be used as legal advice.

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                        • #13
                          ckim34
                          Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 408

                          Originally posted by ironcross
                          Its not that I don't believe you.



                          Its just I want to have all my ducks in a row. Because at this point in time the SDSD is only hiring lateral's.

                          I'm able to get 50%-75% off the academy threw my fathers VA benefits. One of the reasons on putting myself threw the academy is some what a viable option.

                          If you wouldn't mind then. Could you point me in the right direction on the literature on the matter.IE where is officially stated on how to get hired with a LEA as someone whom completed a LE Academy and POST Basic.

                          Stay safe out there,
                          -Mark
                          Here is a thread from another forum Bay Area Riders Forum (BARF). Its a sticky that covers some general info for people who want to become a LEO. Hope it helps.

                          This was sent to me via PM and I figured I'd post it here for those that are interested. If there are any other LEOs out there that would like to chime in with information, corrections or advice, please do so in this thread. ~MM4L undisclosed wrote on 02-20-2006: Hi, I've noticed that you...

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                          • #14
                            Tallship
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 609

                            Guaranteed way to get hired by SDSO= go to either of the two academies and then become a Level I reserve with SDSO. After you finish your field training (and pass) you will get hired. That's why we have so few Level I reserves left. Oh, and brush up on your grammer a bit (just trying to be helpful, not snarky)
                            "We got too many gangsters doin' dirty deeds, too much corruption and crime in the streets. It's time the long arm of the law put a few more in the ground...."

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                            • #15
                              CaptMike
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 1272

                              A life is not important, except for the impact it has on other lives- Jackie Robinson

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