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  • Calm Down
    Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 340

    Conversation between me and my trainee (my trainee and I).

    Me: Why are you bringing your entire duty belt home?
    Trainee: I don't want to leave my gun in my locker.
    Me: Why don't you just get a holster and carry it if you don't want to leave it.
    Trainee : I have to wait till I get my CCW.
    Me.WTF??? Are you serious?
    Trainee: What do you mean?
    Me: You do understand that as a Deputy Sheriff pursuant to 830.1 PC you don't need a CCW, right?
    Trainee:
    Me: You are gonna look kinda silly asking Sheriff ......... for a CCW.
    Trainee: I don't live in this county.
    Me: You're right; you're gonna look pretty silly asking Sheriff............. for a CCW when you're a Deputy Sheriff in ....... county. Here is an assignment for you. Research and tell me what penal code makes you exempt from having a CCW and look up LEOSA.

    To his credit he is phase one, week one, day three. I tried very hard to not make him feel stupid and make him research; but he still probably felt stupid by my initial reaction. The next day he was able to provide the exemption to a CCW for Peace Officers and LEOSA. Mission accomplished, I guess.
  • #2
    jtmkinsd
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 2352

    Should have made him apply...and get denied
    Originally posted by orangeglo
    Welcome to failtown, population = you.

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    • #3
      Samuelx
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 1558

      Nothing like a good old fashioned gig paper or homework assignment to facilitate learning...

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      • #4
        Samuelx
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 1558

        Originally posted by jtmkinsd
        Should have made him apply...and get denied
        hahahhaaaha

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        • #5
          Ron-Solo
          In Memoriam
          • Jan 2009
          • 8581

          Is he enjoying the view from the trunk?
          LASD Retired
          1978-2011

          NRA Life Member
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          • #6
            CSDGuy
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 3763

            Originally posted by Calm Down
            Me: Why are you bringing your entire duty belt home?
            Trainee: I don't want to leave my gun in my locker.
            Me: Why don't you just get a holster and carry it if you don't want to leave it.
            Trainee : I have to wait till I get my CCW.
            Me.WTF??? Are you serious?
            Trainee: What do you mean?
            Me: You do understand that as a Deputy Sheriff pursuant to 830.1 PC you don't need a CCW, right?
            Trainee:
            Me: You are gonna look kinda silly asking Sheriff ......... for a CCW.
            Trainee: I don't live in this county.
            Me: You're right; you're gonna look pretty silly asking Sheriff............. for a CCW when you're a Deputy Sheriff in ....... county. Here is an assignment for you. Research and tell me what penal code makes you exempt from having a CCW and look up LEOSA.

            To his credit he is phase one, week one, day three. I tried very hard to not make him feel stupid and make him research; but he still probably felt stupid by my initial reaction. The next day he was able to provide the exemption to a CCW for Peace Officers and LEOSA. Mission accomplished, I guess.
            I've done the same kinds of things to my EMT trainees. They learn very quickly. It's amazing what a good research project can do...

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            • #7
              DTS
              Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 414

              A good FTO = Jeda master
              Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil

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              • #8
                Matt C
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2006
                • 7128

                Originally posted by CSDGuy
                I've done the same kinds of things to my EMT trainees. They learn very quickly. It's amazing what a good research project can do...
                It's more fun if you ask them to go find some "frequency grease" or something.
                I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

                The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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                • #9
                  CSDGuy
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 3763

                  Originally posted by DTS
                  A good FTO = Jedi master
                  My nickname used to be "Yoda".
                  Originally posted by Blackwater OPS
                  It's more fun if you ask them to go find some "frequency grease" or something.
                  That's for the normal stuff... which is much more fun. Doing research is for their education.

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                  • #10
                    nobody33
                    Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 298

                    That hurt my head. What academy failed him so poorly? That subject should (and was in my academy) be covered in several classes (weapons law, officer safety, use of force, firearms, and d-tac.). For someone to come out of an academy not knowing they can carry a gun off duty just blows my mind.

                    There's no way to miss it that many times unless they just didn't cover it.

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                    • #11
                      Steyrlp10
                      C3 Leader
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 5341

                      Originally posted by nobody33
                      That hurt my head. What academy failed him so poorly? That subject should (and was in my academy) be covered in several classes (weapons law, officer safety, use of force, firearms, and d-tac.). For someone to come out of an academy not knowing they can carry a gun off duty just blows my mind.

                      There's no way to miss it that many times unless they just didn't cover it.
                      That's what I was curious about and was about to ask -- thanks for mentioning it. You'd think this would be under the standard info that's given from the get-go.

                      In my neck of the woods, we don't have Yoda, but we do have Obi-Wan, armed with the red pen...
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                      • #12
                        yzErnie
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 6309

                        Originally posted by Blackwater OPS
                        It's more fun if you ask them to go find some "frequency grease" or something.
                        Man, that brings back memories and I haven't heard that one since the early 80's. Modern day law enforcement has stepped up it's game to more sofisticated schemes to pull on the boots!! Hazing...HUH??? It is now called experience building.
                        The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

                        Originally posted by RazoE
                        I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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                        • #13
                          9mmepiphany
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 8075

                          Wait until summer and they don't park in the shade because it isn't a designated parking spot.

                          I don't think they covered getting, or not needing to get, a CCW in my academy. I know our reserve officers were required to get a CCW.

                          Our Training Sgt at the academy told us to carry a dime to make a call...yes, it was that long ago
                          ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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                          • #14
                            Grumpyoldretiredcop
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 6437

                            Geez. What else isn't the academy teaching them?
                            I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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                            • #15
                              Calm Down
                              Member
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 340

                              Originally posted by nobody33
                              That hurt my head. What academy failed him so poorly?
                              Napa.

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