Signing off

[desmark6]

Well guys/gals, I believe the time has arrived for me to leave Calguns. There was a time when I could spend hours on here reading and gaining a lot of useful information. Times when I would find funny stories and what have you. And when I logged off after spending time surfing through the threads I felt I had spent my time productively.

Lately however, I seem to be annoyed and a bit angry after reading the posts. There most definetely is an anti LE/GOV group on her, no matter what we say or do. We are always walking on their rights ro whatever.

GOOD LORD PEOPLE!!!! We are here because we care, we are on Calguns because we believe in gun rights for law abiding people! BUT JESUS!! So many people start bristling and complaining about contact with the police.

On top of that, all of the zombies are coming the goverment sucks yada yada threads are bothersome.

What ever happened to the days when we just talked about guns and shooting on here?

LEO forum where people can ask LEO qustions, I thought, what a great idea!! But, so many of the threads turn into arguments and all of that.

Anyway, I would like to thank Calguns staff for having allowed me to be a part of this forum for the last few years. I appreciate all the info I have gained and all of the great people I have met through here.

And I am sure there are some who will flame me for not "having thick skin" and all that. Well, that's OK. I won't be here to read it.

I used to come onto Calguns to read and relax. Lately, I'm just angry by the time I log off. Kinda sad. Take care folks

[Purple K]

I'm sorry to see you go

[Ed_Hazard]

Take care and hopefully in the future we'll see you again...

[VictorFranko]

Sorry for intruding your LEO forum:

OP,
Just as there are a few "bad cops" that tarnish the rest of you,
there are a few "anti-LEO" that tarnish the rest of us Calgunners.
Be safe out there.

[macey109]

agree with franko- wish you the best.

[Lancear15]

Just don't spend time reading threads that annoy you.

Do you stop watching TV just because a lot of shows are garbage?

Do you stop driving just because there are a lot of bad drivers?

Do you stop eating out just because most restaurants are crap?

I think you get the idea. Just log in to stay abreast of the 2A news and to buy and sell guns/gear. That is where this site really shines.

With an Itrader of 68 I think you already know that... You must have another motive for leaving.

[zfields]

Take care man. Stay safe.

Hopefully you will reconsider, and just ignore the trolls : )

[sargenv]

Sorry to see ya go... the signal to noise ratio is tolerable... though I don't spend near as much time here as I used to either... it's all about moderation... (not necc by the mods )

[yzErnie]

You must have another motive for leaving.

Without any inflection in my words, please do not interpret any into them....

Instead of questioning his motive for leaving the site, why can't his decision be accepted simply based on his writing? IMHO, this is a prime example of what he is talking about. He is an adult, he is a decision maker, he has expressed his concerns and he has planned his course of action. Let's accept it for what it is in lieu of qustioning the integrity of his decision.

desmark6,
Sorry to read of your decision and sorry to see you taking the experience and expertise you possess with you. Stay safe and watch your top notch.

[PatriotnMore]

I hope you decide to stay. I think it is healthy that we on this forum discuss everything from Ammo to Zen philosophy, and that's good.

I certainly do not agree with every post here, but I will find disagreement anywhere people are gathered together. There are anti gov threads, but let's not forget, it is up to us to see and make corrections in our government to keep abuse from happening. The same can be said about LE, almost every day we can read where some Officer, or agency has done something.

Does that mean EVERY thing gov and LE does is bad, or ALL those who work for the gov or LE is out to trample our rights? NO!

But, when a spade is a spade, calling it a hoe does not change the facts. We can discuss, and agree to disagree on any subject here. I don't particularly like the progressive posters here, nor almost anything they have to add regarding gov, leaders, our rights, and the direction of the country. However, I don't let it effect me to the point, I will leave, or stop participating on this forum, which I think is well ran and moderated.

[orangeusa]

Where's the usual "don't let the door hit ya..." responses that "farawell forum" threads usually get?

Maybe because it has hit a nerve. And it seems to be on a lot of gun forums - anti-government/anti-LEO. And it's seldom logical. Some, I think is racially based, none of it all that interesting. And this 'oh-the USA is going down the tubes' or 'KA sucks' gets pretty old too.

/rant on... Can't anybody SPELL, or apply logic or READ threads anymore? /rant off..

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[chickenfried]

I did read the thread. It's a whining BS farewell post. No different than a "where's my first amendment rights" thread. If anything the people that run this site skew toward protecting LEO. We're free to criticize UPS workers, mailmen, walmart employees, union members, etc. But are supposed to treat LEO with kid's gloves.

Imagine the heckling a UPS guy would get for posting a thread about leaving the forum due to the UPS and union "bashing" going on. I'm not a UPS employee just using them as an example. The cop bashing/anti-leo card is as overplayed as the race card.

[Lancear15]

Without any inflection in my words, please do not interpret any into them....

Instead of questioning his motive for leaving the site, why can't his decision be accepted simply based on his writing? IMHO, this is a prime example of what he is talking about. He is an adult, he is a decision maker, he has expressed his concerns and he has planned his course of action. Let's accept it for what it is in lieu of qustioning the integrity of his decision.

desmark6,
Sorry to read of your decision and sorry to see you taking the experience and expertise you possess with you. Stay safe and watch your top notch.

Well since he said he wont be reading our responses I guess it doesn't matter. What would the site be without members posting their opinions? Might as well call it Calgunwiki if that is what you want, just a site with facts and no opinion. A few others have nailed it on the head, the moderators can only do so much, you must self moderate also. I guess the only way he could self moderate in this case was to go cold turkey. Sorry there I go posting my opinion again.

In all honesty I hope he comes back BTW.

[Lancear15]

I did read the thread. It's a whining BS farewell post. No different than a "where's my first amendment rights" thread. If anything the people that run this site skew toward protecting LEO. We're free to criticize UPS workers, mailmen, walmart employees, union members, etc. But are supposed to treat LEO with kid's gloves.

Well simply for PR reasons it makes sense to not allow LEO bashing. Not to mention we should be working with, not against, our LEOs and government to make our cities, States, and Country a better place. The "Us vs them" mentality gets us nowhere.

[BigDogatPlay]

Instead of questioning his motive for leaving the site, why can't his decision be accepted simply based on his writing? IMHO, this is a prime example of what he is talking about. He is an adult, he is a decision maker, he has expressed his concerns and he has planned his course of action. Let's accept it for what it is in lieu of qustioning the integrity of his decision.

^^^This^^^


As noted, thank you desmark6 for your thoughtful input on a variety of issues. Hopefully we'll see you again.

Stay safe out there.