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  • Tank.45
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    • May 2010
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  • #2
    Dubious_Beans
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 3721

    Originally posted by Tank.45
    B) Would Family member B or C be in any legal bind for shooting any of these people who did this at the time of the crime?
    Who cares about the legal bind. If someone is stabbing a member of my family
    I'm gonna empty everything I've got into them and sweat the details later.

    Do not come into the LEO forum and advocate what you did in the sentence above
    retired.


    Edited to add:
    The neighbors tell the family member to F*** off and if family member "A" doesnt leave they will "cut the other family member's throats."
    This probably would have been a good time to call the cops.
    Last edited by retired; 10-05-2010, 12:49 AM.

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    • #3
      BigDogatPlay
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2007
      • 7362

      Originally posted by Tank.45
      A) how these people even thought they could get away with stabbing 2 people in an upscale neighborhood with LEOs living in the area. Then i realized these people do not care and made me realize no matter were I live, I could be the victim of a crime like this.
      The mentality of "it can't happen here" gets people hurt and sometimes killed. LEOs especially. Bad things can happen anytime, anyplace.

      B) Would Family member B or C be in any legal bind for shooting any of these people who did this at the time of the crime?
      Maybe yes, maybe no. Without having been on scene, its hard to say. But if the suspect was shot in defense while in the act of plunging the knife into the victim it would be hard to argue that it wasn't, at it's core, a justified use of force.... unless the victim instigated it in the first place and the suspect was defending themselves.
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      • #4
        tyrist
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 4564

        As soon as a threat was made all contact between the two parties should have ended forever and LE called.

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        • #5
          emc002
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 2331

          Fear of imminent death or greivous bodily harm for you or another person. Empty the magazine, reload and repeat.

          Do not come into the LEO forum and advocate action like this.
          retired
          Last edited by retired; 10-05-2010, 12:50 AM.
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          • #6
            BillCA
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2005
            • 3821

            Originally posted by Tank.45
            My thought process got me wondering:

            A) how these people even thought they could get away with stabbing 2 people in an upscale neighborhood with LEOs living in the area. Then i realized these people do not care and made me realize no matter were I live, I could be the victim of a crime like this.
            The perps, if they don't live there and/or aren't very close friends of the residents, may not know the occupations of other nearby residents. And you may be right... they simply don't care because they're self-indulgent animals.

            B) Would Family member B or C be in any legal bind for shooting any of these people who did this at the time of the crime?
            Any DA who tried to file charges for a family member shooting felonious attackers should be tarred and feathered, then run out of town on a rail.

            B or C would be invoking "defense of another" against a felonious assault -- multiple assailants and/or ADW. He's suffered great bodily injury as attested to by "holding his intestines from falling out" which can easily be construed at attempted homicde (187PC).

            Errors:
            1. Not calling the PD after the terroristic threats made against the family.
            2. "Going to sleep" after said threats were made. As long as those kind of people are nearby, I'll be awake and alert.
            3. Returning to a hostile location without notifying other family members

            There are all sorts of rude and obnoxious people in this world. But it takes an exceptionally rude, obnoxious and disturbed person to threaten the lives of someone's family over turning down loud music or stopping a dog from barking (or other trivial issue). Such people are often dangerous self-indulgent sociopaths who will carry out such threats using another trivial excuse, without a thought as to the consequences. I place these types of individuals in the same category as a rabid dog.
            Last edited by BillCA; 10-04-2010, 10:24 PM.

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            • #7
              Ron-Solo
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              • #8
                POLICESTATE
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Apr 2009
                • 18185

                Doesn't sound like an upscale neighborhood to me. Just because there aren't bars on all the windows doesn't mean it's nice

                You got people threatening their neighbors with a death just because they were asked to keep the music down then it's not a nice place. The fact it ACTUALLY occurred leads me to believe you must live in an upscale part of East Palo Alto?
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                • #9
                  Tank.45
                  Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 266

                  Originally posted by POLICESTATE
                  Doesn't sound like an upscale neighborhood to me. Just because there aren't bars on all the windows doesn't mean it's nice

                  You got people threatening their neighbors with a death just because they were asked to keep the music down then it's not a nice place. The fact it ACTUALLY occurred leads me to believe you must live in an upscale part of East Palo Alto?
                  I know what you mean about areas being deceiving. It definitely changed my perception of that area.

                  Here is the link to the story: http://www.pe.com/localnews/stories/...1503e1842.html

                  And by the way it was not Perris. Perris is a horrible area. This was a nice community north east of perris.

                  Anyway there is the story...

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                  • #10
                    MaHoTex
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 5002

                    Upscale and Perris in the same paragraph... I think not.
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                    • #11
                      tyrist
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 4564

                      My guess is up-scale means the houses are new. Nothing out there is up scale and that is the type of story that occurs nightly in the worst areas of large cities. Many of those residents have purchased or moved into homes out in the desert. Moreno Valley is becoming WATTS east right now.

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                      • #12
                        ir0nclash86
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 3601

                        Originally posted by tyrist
                        As soon as a threat was made all contact between the two parties should have ended forever and LE called.
                        This

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