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Who cares about the legal bind. If someone is stabbing a member of my family
I'm gonna empty everything I've got into them and sweat the details later.
Do not come into the LEO forum and advocate what you did in the sentence above
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This probably would have been a good time to call the cops.The neighbors tell the family member to F*** off and if family member "A" doesnt leave they will "cut the other family member's throats."Last edited by retired; 10-05-2010, 12:49 AM. -
The mentality of "it can't happen here" gets people hurt and sometimes killed. LEOs especially. Bad things can happen anytime, anyplace.
Maybe yes, maybe no. Without having been on scene, its hard to say. But if the suspect was shot in defense while in the act of plunging the knife into the victim it would be hard to argue that it wasn't, at it's core, a justified use of force.... unless the victim instigated it in the first place and the suspect was defending themselves.B) Would Family member B or C be in any legal bind for shooting any of these people who did this at the time of the crime?
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Fear of imminent death or greivous bodily harm for you or another person. Empty the magazine, reload and repeat.
Do not come into the LEO forum and advocate action like this.
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The perps, if they don't live there and/or aren't very close friends of the residents, may not know the occupations of other nearby residents. And you may be right... they simply don't care because they're self-indulgent animals.My thought process got me wondering:
A) how these people even thought they could get away with stabbing 2 people in an upscale neighborhood with LEOs living in the area. Then i realized these people do not care and made me realize no matter were I live, I could be the victim of a crime like this.
Any DA who tried to file charges for a family member shooting felonious attackers should be tarred and feathered, then run out of town on a rail.B) Would Family member B or C be in any legal bind for shooting any of these people who did this at the time of the crime?
B or C would be invoking "defense of another" against a felonious assault -- multiple assailants and/or ADW. He's suffered great bodily injury as attested to by "holding his intestines from falling out" which can easily be construed at attempted homicde (187PC).
Errors:
1. Not calling the PD after the terroristic threats made against the family.
2. "Going to sleep" after said threats were made. As long as those kind of people are nearby, I'll be awake and alert.
3. Returning to a hostile location without notifying other family members
There are all sorts of rude and obnoxious people in this world. But it takes an exceptionally rude, obnoxious and disturbed person to threaten the lives of someone's family over turning down loud music or stopping a dog from barking (or other trivial issue). Such people are often dangerous self-indulgent sociopaths who will carry out such threats using another trivial excuse, without a thought as to the consequences. I place these types of individuals in the same category as a rabid dog.Last edited by BillCA; 10-04-2010, 10:24 PM.Comment
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Doesn't sound like an upscale neighborhood to me. Just because there aren't bars on all the windows doesn't mean it's nice
You got people threatening their neighbors with a death just because they were asked to keep the music down then it's not a nice place. The fact it ACTUALLY occurred leads me to believe you must live in an upscale part of East Palo Alto?-POLICESTATE,
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I know what you mean about areas being deceiving. It definitely changed my perception of that area.Doesn't sound like an upscale neighborhood to me. Just because there aren't bars on all the windows doesn't mean it's nice
You got people threatening their neighbors with a death just because they were asked to keep the music down then it's not a nice place. The fact it ACTUALLY occurred leads me to believe you must live in an upscale part of East Palo Alto?
Here is the link to the story: http://www.pe.com/localnews/stories/...1503e1842.html
And by the way it was not Perris. Perris is a horrible area. This was a nice community north east of perris.
Anyway there is the story...Comment
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Upscale and Perris in the same paragraph... I think not.NRA Life Member
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My guess is up-scale means the houses are new. Nothing out there is up scale and that is the type of story that occurs nightly in the worst areas of large cities. Many of those residents have purchased or moved into homes out in the desert. Moreno Valley is becoming WATTS east right now.Comment
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