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  • RollingCode3
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3221

    Requalification for off duty gun

    Does anyone know any shooting range around Orange County that offer handgun qualification for peace officer? My department doesn't offer it.
    Last edited by RollingCode3; 02-19-2011, 6:04 PM.
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    Triad
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 1684

    You guys qualify with your off duty guns?

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    • #3
      Pryde
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 2506

      OC sheriff should be able to do it at their range by the honda center.

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          kenshnx
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          • Feb 2009
          • 182

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          • #6
            CaptMike
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2006
            • 1272

            Originally posted by Triad
            You guys qualify with your off duty guns?
            Hey Triad

            Unfortunately, there are some departments that do not authorize off duty carry. Even though the department may not authorize off duty carry, the State of California still gives us the legal authority to do so, but we assume all liability if we have to use our off duty firearms. Some departments even go as far as asking other nearby departments to not allow their off duty officers the ability to qualify at their ranges. California Case Law states that we have the right to carry, but to maintain our certification we must qualify quarterly with a POST certified Range Master. Thats why we have to look around for a rangemaster that is willing to qualify us. It gets to be a headache sometimes and thats why this question was asked by the OP. stay safe
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            • #7
              Triad
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 1684

              Originally posted by LtMike70
              Hey Triad

              Unfortunately, there are some departments that do not authorize off duty carry. Even though the department may not authorize off duty carry, the State of California still gives us the legal authority to do so, but we assume all liability if we have to use our off duty firearms. Some departments even go as far as asking other nearby departments to not allow their off duty officers the ability to qualify at their ranges. California Case Law states that we have the right to carry, but to maintain our certification we must qualify quarterly with a POST certified Range Master. Thats why we have to look around for a rangemaster that is willing to qualify us. It gets to be a headache sometimes and thats why this question was asked by the OP. stay safe


              I appreciate the explaination, I've never heard of a policy like this. That's incredible....! Neither my department nor the PD have anything like this in their policy.

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              • #8
                5shot
                Senior Member
                • May 2008
                • 1265

                Originally posted by LtMike70
                Hey Triad

                Unfortunately, there are some departments that do not authorize off duty carry. Even though the department may not authorize off duty carry, the State of California still gives us the legal authority to do so, but we assume all liability if we have to use our off duty firearms. Some departments even go as far as asking other nearby departments to not allow their off duty officers the ability to qualify at their ranges. California Case Law states that we have the right to carry, but to maintain our certification we must qualify quarterly with a POST certified Range Master. Thats why we have to look around for a rangemaster that is willing to qualify us. It gets to be a headache sometimes and thats why this question was asked by the OP. stay safe
                Wow, what a turn around. When I started in 1972 department policy required us to carry 24/7.
                John Bishop
                Member: NRA Life, CRPA, WEGC

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                • #9
                  CaptMike
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 1272

                  Originally posted by 5shot
                  Wow, what a turn around. When I started in 1972 department policy required us to carry 24/7.
                  Yes, it is a turn around from past practices. Unfortunately, because of liability concerns, larger departments are swayed by political interests. The safety of the officer is not always the primary concern. The budget and how much would have to be paid out for lawsuits tends to be the greater concern. We all make do as we can in these departments.
                  A life is not important, except for the impact it has on other lives- Jackie Robinson

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                  • #10
                    RollingCode3
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 3221

                    Originally posted by LtMike70
                    Hey Triad

                    Unfortunately, there are some departments that do not authorize off duty carry. Even though the department may not authorize off duty carry, the State of California still gives us the legal authority to do so, but we assume all liability if we have to use our off duty firearms. Some departments even go as far as asking other nearby departments to not allow their off duty officers the ability to qualify at their ranges. California Case Law states that we have the right to carry, but to maintain our certification we must qualify quarterly with a POST certified Range Master. Thats why we have to look around for a rangemaster that is willing to qualify us. It gets to be a headache sometimes and thats why this question was asked by the OP. stay safe
                    +1. My department doesn't prohibit off duty carry but they dont encourage it either. You have to pay for training and qualify your off duty handgun out of your own pocket.

                    This is our policy

                    The off-duty use of a firearm will be considered to be outside the scope of employment. Therefore, the county will not provide legal defense or pay any claim or judgment arising out of the off-duty use of a firearm.
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                    • #11
                      5shot
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 1265

                      Originally posted by LtMike70
                      Yes, it is a turn around from past practices. Unfortunately, because of liability concerns, larger departments are swayed by political interests. The safety of the officer is not always the primary concern. The budget and how much would have to be paid out for lawsuits tends to be the greater concern. We all make do as we can in these departments.
                      Yea, I saw that change over the years. When I retired in 2004, we we're required to qualify with off duty guns and back up guns twice a year at one of our quarterly shoots. Only cost to us was the ammo, if it wasn't the .40 caliber that they provided for on duty weapon qualification.
                      John Bishop
                      Member: NRA Life, CRPA, WEGC

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                      • #12
                        kw91364
                        Junior Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 65

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                        • #13
                          Triad
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 1684

                          Deputy here. Only thing in our policy is "no .357 or 44 Mag."

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                            RollingCode3
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 3221

                            Originally posted by Pryde
                            OC sheriff should be able to do it at their range by the honda center.
                            Last I heard, our department told them not to qualify for us to carry off duty. Sorry to bring up old thread but still looking for a place to qualify.
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                            • #15
                              lorddivid1
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 1418

                              So your dept. Wants you to carry your dept issued glocks or berettas 24/7??

                              Or are they against carrying while off duty all together??

                              Can you list these agencies so I know not to apply??

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