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Do the LEOs in CA have to go though the whole ten day waiting period thing too or is there a different procedure for them? Just wondering how the system over there works.
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LEO's need letterhead from their department to be exempt from the 10 day waiting period. -
Alright thanks for the speedy reply.
By the way, it sucks what you fellas over there have to deal with. I was looking though some of the laws last night on one of our dealers websites. It seems as if it is almost written to be complex in an attempt to tangle people up. Flow charts for guns..unreal.
Speaking of which, what is the ruling on things like bullet buttons and things like that for LEOs. Are they allowed if the firearm is going to be used for duty or is it another situation where you have to have department letterhead to approve a standard mag release or a collapsible stock? Because of the situation over there are departments a little more liberal with letterhead? Over here sometimes getting letterhead from a department can be a nightmare for some officers. I would like to think due to the situation you guys face over there, the departments are a little more giving.Last edited by CDMJ; 09-05-2010, 9:14 AM.Easy spin nipple tassels get yours today!Comment
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yeah, gun laws here are really horrible.Comment
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I would imagine a lot depends on the departments size and who you know in that department as well. Really guys I am just blown away by the whole system over there and how it got like that or how it seems to get keep worse. Anyways thanks for taking my questions and answering them quickly.
Easy spin nipple tassels get yours today!Comment
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Most of the LEOs we get have no problem getting letterhead...but it does depend on the department. Each department generally designates one individual who writes all the letterhead. They take into account department policy on personal guns and other factors...but yeah, some departments hand the letters out like candy...others are a little more restrictive.I would imagine a lot depends on the departments size and who you know in that department as well. Really guys I am just blown away by the whole system over there and how it got like that or how it seems to get keep worse. Anyways thanks for taking my questions and answering them quickly.
As for the laws in our fare State...all I can say is welcome to the Republik of Kalifornia
Last edited by jtmkinsd; 09-05-2010, 11:09 AM.Originally posted by orangegloComment
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Like my ex-wife, it's complicated
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Some departments hand out letters for AW because budgets are so tight that it's preferable for it to come out of the officer's wallet.
LEOs used to be fully exempt from the 10 day wait, but those days are gone. Also gone, thankfully, are the days when we had to have a letterhead to buy standard and larger capacity mags on our own dime.
-- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun
Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.
Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James MadisonComment
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As others have stated, LEOs can pick up their firearms immediately, if they have the appropriate letter on agency letterhead. They can acquire personal AWs with the appropriate letter on agency letterhead. If they do NOT have the letter, they too must wait the 10 days and may not acquire AWs. Regardless, their info would still be entered into the DROS system.
All the letter (for non-AW) does is exempt the LEO from the waiting period. It does NOT exempt the LEO from the background check.Comment
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Does DoJ actually push through the full check when a DROS comes through with the code for a LEO exemption on it? I'd wager not, since LEOs have a de facto COE as a course of employment. I'd be guessing that all they do at DoJ is the registration step if it's a handgun.
They are state employees, after all, and will find the path of least resistance when it comes to getting their work done.
-- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun
Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.
Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James MadisonComment
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Some shops deal with LEO's on a daily basis (LC Action, Bullseye, etc) and handle these transactions professionally. However, most places generally deal with non-LEO's so expect a very slow paperwork process and lots of scrutiny when they read your dept. letter. The guy you deal with will likely ask 36 different people how to enter you in the computer because "this guy's a cop and wants the gun today" blah blah. I even had one guy ask me why I wanted the gun that day. Couldn't believe it.Comment
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Trust me...they do the full background check just like anyone else...DOJ trusts nobody...lolDoes DoJ actually push through the full check when a DROS comes through with the code for a LEO exemption on it? I'd wager not, since LEOs have a de facto COE as a course of employment. I'd be guessing that all they do at DoJ is the registration step if it's a handgun.
They are state employees, after all, and will find the path of least resistance when it comes to getting their work done.
Originally posted by orangegloComment
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It normally takes us about 15 minutes to do paperwork when someone is DROSing their firearm, another 6-10 minutes when they pick it up. So, when LEO does an instant pick up it's reasonable to assume it normally takes us 15-20 minutes to process the transaction. The only thing that slows us down is making sure we have copies of all the relevent proofs (residency, exemptions, etc)
As for the guy asking you why you wanted the gun today, I would have told him I had a 7-11 to rob...lolOriginally posted by orangegloComment
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