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  • 9unknown
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 645

    I need some advice about a confrontation with a neighbor

    Long story short, neighbor of mine let's his pit bull off leash. It decides to attack a couple walking their dogs while I'm outside. I get involved and break up the fight. Neighbor comes outside, I tell him to keep his dog on a leash. He sees my advice as invitation to a confrontation. We exchange words, he tells me he's going inside to get his gun and when he comes back were going to have problems. I go
    home and call police, they come
    and pick him up outside of my house within 10 min. However, they say there's nothing they can do since they couldn't find a gun and it's my word against his.

    This guy is new in the neighborhood and has already upset quite a few of my neighbors as well as myself with his careless
    and aggressive behavior.

    I'm quite concerened that he will try to retaliate in some way. Im just wondering if there's anyone out there with experience in this area that may be able to offer some advice.

    Thanks in advance
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  • #2
    Ron-Solo
    In Memoriam
    • Jan 2009
    • 8581

    Put animal control's number on speed dial. If you have time, go to their office and talk to one of the enforcement officers for your area.

    If the dog is running loose and aggressive, call the police.

    Do not confront him personally. He's already made it clear that he doesn't want to play nice with others. If he lives in a rental property, find out who the landlord is and contact them regarding the problem.

    Have your neighbors do the same. The more people that call on him, the better chances of success you will have in the long run.

    Best of luck.
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    • #3
      stitchnicklas
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2010
      • 7091

      maybe file a restraining order against him???

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      • #4
        9unknown
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 645

        Restraining order is definitely is definitely an option if he takes things any further. But from what I've read I might not have enough of a case for one yet. Contacting his landlord and animal control are definitely things I have considered as well. Just trying to get as much info as possible before I decide on a course of action. I am not taking this situation lightly, especially since he is a close neighbor of mine, and I see him often.
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        • #5
          yzErnie
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Mar 2007
          • 6309

          Neighborhood bully. There are plenty of (legal) ways to make his life difficult too.
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          I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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          • #6
            jshoebot
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 1857

            If you need to find the landlord's name, text the street address, city, state and zip to 46873. It'll send you an automated reply with info on the house and the homeowners name.
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            • #7
              9unknown
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 645

              (legal) ways such as? I really didn't want to call the police on this guy but he left me no choice. First time I've ever had to make that call in my life. Now I feel as though he has this vendetta against me and might try somthing stupid, and I will be forced to defend myself. I really don't want it to come to that.
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              • #8
                ZX-10R
                Veteran Member
                • May 2010
                • 4122

                What BS people who do not leash there dogs are stupid, ignorant, and disrespectful. What a lose. I would have waited for him to come out with the "gun". At that point that is when his troubles start. Where the heck were the other neighbors to help and witness the bully try and bully you? When I go for a walk I have my Iphone4 with me ready to snap pics or video of an idiot who does not have their dog leashed since I have a breed that is not friendly. If my dog has to be leashed so does every one else.
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                • #9
                  fullrearview
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 9371

                  Originally posted by jshoebot
                  If you need to find the landlord's name, text the street address, city, state and zip to 46873. It'll send you an automated reply with info on the house and the homeowners name.
                  Do what now????
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                  • #10
                    mej16489
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 2714

                    Originally posted by fullrearview
                    Do what now????
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                    • #11
                      9unknown
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 645

                      Yeah, the people that I was helping left without saying a word when things started to escalate. In retrospect I feel like maybe I shouldve just minded my own business and let them fend for themselves. But I have a dog of my own and would hate to see anything bad happen. All the other neighbors didn't bother to come out until the police arrived. People generally get pretty shaken up when guns are mentioned.
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                      • #12
                        BigDogatPlay
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 7362

                        To the OP.... as mentioned above the guy is a bully and he has shown you his stripes. Discreetly set up a video camera inside your house to record what he does out front, particularly if/when he starts vandalizing your property, and to catch the dog on the loose if it roams again. Video evidence is very hard for even the most dedicated a-hole bully to refute. You may also want to consider carrying a small digital voice recorder when you are out front... that way if he threatens again to shoot you, it's no longer his word against yours.

                        Definitely contact animal control and put this yayhoo on their radar. If you have a city code enforcement office, you might contact them to. They can make anyone's life a small slice of perdition.
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                        • #13
                          BillCA
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 3821

                          Originally posted by gravedigger
                          Sounds like that dog needs some homemade "night night" treats tossed over the fence.
                          I was thinking of warning the OP about exactly this same thing, if this neighbor's back yard is next to his. He could come out some morning and find Fido dead from an "unknown substance".

                          For the OP -- talk to other neighbors who have had problems or expressed their opinions of the guy. Have everyone of them keep a notebook to log any activities they see him doing that are disruptive, bullying, threatening, illegal, etc. A landlord confronted with information from several people will take action to get rid of the guy. Videos are better and a cheap webcam can capture a lot when placed in a front window.

                          In the meantime, put some kind of lock on your gate latch so it doesn't "mysteriously" pop open to let your dog run free. Talk to the members of your household to make sure they tell you about any contact they have with the neighbor -- especially if he asks questions of them.


                          What BS people who do not leash there dogs are stupid, ignorant, and disrespectful.
                          As a general rule, I agree. But a neighbor of mine walks his golden retreiver off leash (she's 11 y/o, obeys well and is very friendly). So I won't apply that to every situation.

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                          • #14
                            BANG BANG
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 2972

                            one of these small cameras might come in handy too

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                            • #15
                              oldsmoboat
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 1303

                              Originally posted by jshoebot
                              If you need to find the landlord's name, text the street address, city, state and zip to 46873. It'll send you an automated reply with info on the house and the homeowners name.
                              Edit this because it doesn't work.
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