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  • Jwood562
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 1271

    Can LEO's have automatic knives?

    Just a simple question to settle a discussion.

    Can LEO's posses automatic knives? We tried searching the interwebs but our skills were not up to par.

    We have found out MIL guys can have them and that anyone can have them if under 2" and we saw all the federal laws about shipping and transporting across state lines but no clear answer if sworn LEO's can posses them. A link would help if you find the answer.
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    Jwood562
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 1271

    And yes I mean Here in CA

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    • #3
      SkyStorm82
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      • Oct 2005
      • 1745

      653K PC doesn't appear to provide an exemption.
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        Tom Slick
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        • Jan 2010
        • 730

        maybe 12020 PC?

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          Ron-Solo
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          • Jan 2009
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          There are no exemptions in 653k or 12020 PC for knives possessed by LEOs.
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            verapakill
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            • Aug 2010
            • 1185

            Automatic knife?
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            • #7
              VictorFranko
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              • Jan 2010
              • 13737

              Originally posted by verapakill
              Automatic knife?
              He meant semi-automatic

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              • #8
                tyrist
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 4564

                I don't know of an exemption but numerous stores will sell them to LEO/Military.

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                • #9
                  ke6guj
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                  • Nov 2003
                  • 23725

                  Originally posted by SkyStorm82
                  653K PC doesn't appear to provide an exemption.
                  Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                  There are no exemptions in 653k or 12020 PC for knives possessed by LEOs.


                  Unfortunately, it appears that some/many LEOs rely on the Brass Pass in this case.


                  Originally posted by tyrist
                  I don't know of an exemption but numerous stores will sell them to LEO/Military.
                  And there is no no exemption for the sale of a switchblade to an LEO. Those stores are in violation of 653k. I wonder if there is a way that we can use the fact that some LEOs routinely break the law carrying on duty, and that they ignore the stores that illegally sell them the knives, and use that info to get 653k overturned?
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                    Jwood562
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 1271

                    Thanks for your input guys. Another point was brought up while reading the 12020 section.

                    We did not see an exemption specifically for LEOs and saps or blackjacks but they are carried, or is there an exemption for those that we missef

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                    • #11
                      safewaysecurity
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 6166

                      Semi-Auto Knife

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                      • #12
                        Trigger Finger
                        Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 105

                        My understanding is that if your department approves, a full time law enforcement officer can carry one on duty. Just like a sap, sap gloves or a baton!

                        S&W makes a knife called Magic that is a switch blade, they don't call it that, that they will sell to the public. My son bought one off E-Bay, and they are kind of neat.
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                        • #13
                          Elmer
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 26

                          Originally posted by Trigger Finger
                          My understanding is that if your department approves, a full time law enforcement officer can carry one on duty. Just like a sap, sap gloves or a baton!
                          No.

                          12020 provides for the law enforcement exemption on impact weapons. As Skystorm82 said, there is no exemption for 653K. Departments can't write their own exemptions to the penal code.

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                          • #14
                            eltee
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 897

                            Nope. One of my buddies got called on the carpet for it, my dept. issued a P&P on it.

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                            • #15
                              code33
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 971

                              The MAGIC is spring assist, not a switch blade.

                              Originally posted by Trigger Finger
                              My understanding is that if your department approves, a full time law enforcement officer can carry one on duty. Just like a sap, sap gloves or a baton!

                              S&W makes a knife called Magic that is a switch blade, they don't call it that, that they will sell to the public. My son bought one off E-Bay, and they are kind of neat.
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