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  • #16
    Ron-Solo
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    • Jan 2009
    • 8581

    Originally posted by Samuelx
    "Shirley", you can't be serious asking a question like that...
    I am serious, and don't call me Shirley.
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    • #17
      desmark6
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2005
      • 633

      Originally posted by Falstaff
      That's my next question....

      perhaps i should re-phrase the interogative:

      Why is the 55 MPH speed limit for trucks rarely enforced? On a trip down i5/i80 today I noted that not a single semi was going less than 60, many were going 70+. CHP were everywhere...

      Kinda like fishing, as much as we'd like too we just simply can't catch'em all!!!!!

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      • #18
        IrishJoe3
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 3804

        Originally posted by desmark6
        Kinda like fishing, as much as we'd like too we just simply can't catch'em all!!!!!
        LOL As I tell people who I catch speeding and complain about everyone else speeding; "Well there's only one of me, and a lot of them"
        Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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        • #19
          ledman
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 2512

          Originally posted by Samuelx
          Hey Guys, the whole "shirley/surely" thing was meant to be a humorous reference to Airplane... No disrespect/name calling intended!

          Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


          (and to answer the question, there really aren't that many of us LEOs around - you've heard the comparison to a fisherman catching fish, right? also, and I think most of us LEOs have been in the same position - for some strange reason, I'm ALWAYS seeing violations/good stops when I'm otherwise engaged or on my way to handling something else)

          (oh and this is for LEDMAN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkiZMFFNi44 )
          Hahaah! that's great! I actually watched Airplane last weekend, it was On Demand for free, lol a Classic!
          So, Samuelx, have you ever been in a Turkish Prison? LMAO!!
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          • #20
            rromeo
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2009
            • 6981

            Why is there a 55 MPH speed limit for trailers?
            Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

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            • #21
              BillCA
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2005
              • 3821

              At 55 mph you can slow down and get a trailer under control if it starts weaving or it has problems. This includes big rigs. But mostly, it's because the weight of a towed load adds tremendously to the stopping distance of the vehicle. On big rigs air systems allow braking on the trailers but the total GVW can be 79,000 pounds. That's a lot of metal to bring to a stop if something goes wonky.

              Most cars tow small trailers less than half their weight. No trailer brakes required. But those car & light truck brakes will be stressed hard to bring the extra weight to a stop.

              Additionally, trailers don't always "track" well behind vehicles. It can depend on how they're loaded, their suspensions and other factors. Ever see someone towing a jet-ski on a trailer that keeps wanting to "do the Rumba" behind the tow vehicle? I have. I've also seen U-Haul trailers mis-loaded with too much weight to one side and too far aft. This means a lot of pulling to one side while also having only "light" contact on the tongue & ball -- a recipe for disaster.

              I've towed a trailer both by pickup and on a motorcycle. If you get into a situation where the trailer begins to oscillate back and forth behind you, there are two ways to correct it. A slight acelleration to "pull" it into line or a gradual slowing down so it pushes against the ball and tends to "center" on the ball. In either case, it warrants stopping to inspect your load.

              Stuff in trailers bounces around, especially on truck routes with their pounded pavement. In Semi's this bouncing can cause load shifts that unbalance a trailer enough that going into a turn (e.g. cloverleaf offramp or a curve on a grade) can topple the trailer.

              There have been lots of studies on this and until the trucking industry comes up with serious improvements in trailer braking and towing technology we'll see 55 mph as the defacto standard and 65 mph as the standard for some flat, straight stretches.

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              • #22
                rromeo
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2009
                • 6981

                I ask because most states don't have a lower speed limit for trucks.
                Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

                - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
                (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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                • #23
                  Carsgunsandchics
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3537

                  It's for the children

                  It's for the safety of others once again.

                  I came back to edit my orig post to conform but it was already done for me.
                  Last edited by Carsgunsandchics; 08-21-2010, 12:26 PM. Reason: requested
                  Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                  I am more of a sucker than a blower...

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                  • #24
                    BillCA
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 3821

                    Originally posted by rromeo
                    I ask because most states don't have a lower speed limit for trucks.
                    Some states don't, that's true. But many states do limit truck traffic speeds, especially in congested areas.

                    What I find interesting is that at least several states (I think Utah is one) that have a minimum speed limit posted on freeways & highways. I recall seeing "Minimum Speed 40 mph" signs on one of my trips. It essentially prevents people from clogging the highway by driving anything too slow on the road.

                    Remember, many cars can stop from 60 mph in as little as 120-130 ft. Worn brakes might up that to 150ft. But an 18-wheeler may take up to 300 ft to stop -- more if he's avoiding a jack-knife situation. (Just remember though, a train will take from 1/3 to 1 mile to stop from 60 mph).

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                    • #25
                      Big O
                      Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 379

                      I count only 9 states with lower speed limits for trucks vs. cars (http://www.motorists.org/speed-limits/state-chart).

                      1 of these states (Texas) only has a different speed limit at night. 5 states have a 10 mph lower limit for trucks. California is the only one with a 15 mph difference. What do we know that everyone else doesn't?

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                      • #26
                        POLICESTATE
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                        • Apr 2009
                        • 18185

                        Originally posted by Big O
                        I count only 9 states with lower speed limits for trucks vs. cars (http://www.motorists.org/speed-limits/state-chart).

                        1 of these states (Texas) only has a different speed limit at night. 5 states have a 10 mph lower limit for trucks. California is the only one with a 15 mph difference. What do we know that everyone else doesn't?
                        That people drive like **** in California
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                        • #27
                          audiopro74
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                          • Jun 2010
                          • 1779

                          I was told by a dot investigator that the limit difference is is for the debris field difference. In cali
                          Why is everything good???? Illegal, Immoral, fattening???

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                          • #28
                            Super Spy
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                            • Mar 2009
                            • 3461

                            I wish the semi's would stay the hell out of the fast lane. 580 West everyday I see a-holes in the #1 lane 5 miles before the 238 merge.....and they sure as hell don't get out of the #1 lane after the merge. What a bunch of inconsiderate douche bags!
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                            • #29
                              E Pluribus Unum
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 8098

                              State maximum speed limits are not needed. 22350 is the ONLY speed limit law we need.

                              In California, if it is safe to do 80, and you do 56 in a 55 state maximum area, you're breaking the law. That's crap. Everyone should be able to drive as fast as reasonably safe for conditions.
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                              12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

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                              • #30
                                E Pluribus Unum
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                                • Dec 2006
                                • 8098

                                Originally posted by Super Spy
                                I wish the semi's would stay the hell out of the fast lane.
                                They are supposed to... they can and do get tickets for violating this.
                                Originally posted by Alan Gura
                                The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
                                Originally posted by hoffmang
                                12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

                                -Gene
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