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  • PositiveInfluence
    Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 463

    Baton Question

    For you LEO's and other Security Professionals out there...

    Any tips on how to "Lube" up a baton? I have a Monadnock(Sp?) expandable baton and when I extend it completely it seems to get stuck in its expanded state. Even after some good hits on the ground to close it it STILL does not collapse! It seems that the baton gets stuck open and might benefit from some lube. But I do not know what to use or even if that is a GOOD idea. Any tips guys?
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  • #2
    tyrist
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 4564

    First off do not "Lube" up the baton it's suppose to stay very firmly expanded for front strikes. You need to get trained on how to collapse it. You need to slam the tip into concrete or asphalt.

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    • #3
      PositiveInfluence
      Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 463

      Originally posted by tyrist
      First off do not "Lube" up the baton it's suppose to stay very firmly expanded for front strikes. You need to get trained on how to collapse it. You need to slam the tip into concrete or asphalt.
      I do that, but when I do slam it down... it stays open. Sometimes it takes almost 5 strikes!
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      • #4
        556fmj
        Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 261

        Yeah. no oil on the expandable baton. supposed to stay dry.
        Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.

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        • #5
          9mmepiphany
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2008
          • 8075

          Originally posted by PositiveInfluence
          I do that, but when I do slam it down... it stays open. Sometimes it takes almost 5 strikes!
          you need to drive it straight down...any angle will cause it to not release
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          • #6
            eviioiive
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 1620

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            • #7
              BigDogatPlay
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2007
              • 7362

              I'll ask the seeemingly foolish question... this isn't one of the 'Auto Lock' models where you have to push a button to release it?

              Sorry, it's a tech support call center kind of day for me.

              I used an ASP and it sometimes took a couple of solid strikes to get it collapsed. The more vertical the strike, the better.
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              Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

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              • #8
                1911su16b870
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Dec 2006
                • 7654

                Originally posted by tyrist
                First off do not "Lube" up the baton it's suppose to stay very firmly expanded for front strikes. You need to get trained on how to collapse it. You need to slam the tip into concrete or asphalt.
                +1 good advice and as BigDogatPlay said make sure there is not release button.
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                • #9
                  556fmj
                  Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 261

                  Originally posted by 9mmepiphany
                  you need to drive it straight down...any angle will cause it to not release
                  On the ASP you do but on the Peacekeeper RCB/Winchester baton you strike it an an angle to loosen and collapse.
                  Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.

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                  • #10
                    Unit74
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 2359

                    I use the twist lock ASP and it's great. Just a couple turns and she drops.

                    It doesn't loosen up after a few strikes either. If you have ever had that happen while engaged, you know how worthless the ASP becomes.

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                    • #11
                      PositiveInfluence
                      Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 463

                      HAHA! There is no button. I have been working on doing the vertical strike and it seems to work a lot better. I am a bigger guy so getting down to strike is what seems to hold me back.
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                      Deputy Vu Nguyen #1427 EOW 12/19/07

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                      • #12
                        tyrist
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 4564

                        Hold the baton so it is facing downward and then do a "lunge" motion while driving the tip into concrete or asphalt.

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                        • #13
                          Doru
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 66

                          Adding my $.02

                          The Monadnock shouldn't need lube, as issues with closing may have more to do with the ball bearings that form the lock.

                          An ASP or similar friction lock should never be lubed and only cleaned with things like rubbing alcohol or similar that will evaporate.

                          Finally, I'd dump the Monadnock and/or ASP in favor of a Peacekeeper RCB. It's much better than either. It is essentially straight baton that happens to collapse.

                          Drew

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                          • #14
                            Unit74
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 2359

                            Originally posted by Doru
                            Adding my $.02

                            The Monadnock shouldn't need lube, as issues with closing may have more to do with the ball bearings that form the lock.

                            An ASP or similar friction lock should never be lubed and only cleaned with things like rubbing alcohol or similar that will evaporate.

                            Finally, I'd dump the Monadnock and/or ASP in favor of a Peacekeeper RCB. It's much better than either. It is essentially straight baton that happens to collapse.

                            Drew
                            We have a few guys who rock it Ol Skool with hickory...I always chuckle when I see that.

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                            • #15
                              RedMongooSe
                              Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 146

                              tap it on the ground parallel before doing the vertical collapse. it will loosen up.

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