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  • dirtracer24
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 713

    remington 1100 cutdown barrel

    Hi this is my first post on here so lets hope I dont screw anything up. A friend of mine has a remington 1100 semi automatic shotgun. Aparently remington doesnt offer a shorter barrel such as a home defense model. He asked me (a POST academy Graduate) if if he could legally cut his barrel down(to not less than 16" of course). I couldnt give him a straight answer. He was also interested in putting a folding stock or some kind of pistol grip stock, as I remember as long as the barrel length is 16" or greater and total gun length is 30" or greater it is legal. Im I on the right track here, and is he going to be violating any laws by "cutting down his barrel?
    Thanks in advance
    dirtracer24
    When liberty is on the line who will be standing shoulder to shoulder with you?
  • #2
    dirtracer24
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 713

    The actual cutting of the barrel doesnt break any laws though right, as long as its 18 1/4" long or longer? I found a little gray area in the flow chart, between #'s 13 and 14. If its a fixed stock with a pistol grip hes good to go? im assuming that as long as the stock doesnt fold or telescop it puts it straight into the legal category, wether it has a pistol grip or not.
    gun laws sure are confusing I cant wait to be on the streets enforceing these "laws"
    thanks agin for your reply all info is much appreciated
    When liberty is on the line who will be standing shoulder to shoulder with you?

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    • #3
      ke6guj
      Moderator
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Nov 2003
      • 23725

      Originally posted by dirtracer24
      The actual cutting of the barrel doesnt break any laws though right, as long as its 18 1/4" long or longer?
      correct, provided that cutting it down to 18.25" didn't cause it to go under 26" OAL when it is in its shortest fireable configuration.

      I found a little gray area in the flow chart, between #'s 13 and 14. If its a fixed stock with a pistol grip hes good to go? im assuming that as long as the stock doesnt fold or telescop it puts it straight into the legal category, wether it has a pistol grip or not.
      what grey area did you find in my chart?

      If you go to #13, and answer it as NO, then it doesn't matter if it has a PG on it or not. the law prohibits having a 13 AND a 14. Both must be present to be considered an AW. If it has a 13 OR a 14, but not both, then it is not illegal.
      Jack



      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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      • #4
        Ron-Solo
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        • Jan 2009
        • 8581

        Buy another barrel, don't butcher the one that came with it. You will regret it later. And pistol grip shotguns are not what people think them to be. I've carried a standard stock shotgun for 32+ years in tactical situations and it has always come thru for me.
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        • #5
          dirtracer24
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 713

          .

          what grey area did you find in my chart?

          If you go to #13, and answer it as NO, then it doesn't matter if it has a PG on it or not. the law prohibits having a 13 AND a 14. Both must be present to be considered an AW. If it has a 13 OR a 14, but not both, then it is not illegal.[/QUOTE]

          I was confuseed if one canceled the other out, say if 13 was in place of 14 and vice versa, I guess im just over thinking it.
          I also agree if not cutting the barrel, but remember its not my gun and ive done zero research into looking for a replacement barrel. If it was me I would use the excuse to buy a home security shotgun or pistol, i would never take a saw too the barrel of my $700 gun.
          thanks agin for your help guys the info was great.
          When liberty is on the line who will be standing shoulder to shoulder with you?

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          • #6
            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by dirtracer24
            I was confuseed if one canceled the other out, say if 13 was in place of 14 and vice versa, I guess im just over thinking it.
            I also agree if not cutting the barrel, but remember its not my gun and ive done zero research into looking for a replacement barrel. If it was me I would use the excuse to buy a home security shotgun or pistol, i would never take a saw too the barrel of my $700 gun.
            thanks agin for your help guys the info was great.
            I could have reversed the order of 13 and 14 and it wouldn't have mattered. Having either a 13 or a 14 by itself is not illegal, it is just the combination of both a 13 and 14 that makes it an AW.
            Jack



            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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            • #7
              Turbinator
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              • Oct 2005
              • 11930

              Originally posted by Ron-Solo
              Buy another barrel, don't butcher the one that came with it. You will regret it later. And pistol grip shotguns are not what people think them to be. I've carried a standard stock shotgun for 32+ years in tactical situations and it has always come thru for me.
              How about pistol grip with an AR style stock? It seems to me that the grip angle on a standard stock isn't great on the wrist. The grip angle on a pistol grip feels much better, IMHO.

              Turby

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              • #8
                Ron-Solo
                In Memoriam
                • Jan 2009
                • 8581

                Originally posted by Turbinator
                How about pistol grip with an AR style stock? It seems to me that the grip angle on a standard stock isn't great on the wrist. The grip angle on a pistol grip feels much better, IMHO.

                Turby
                A lot of it is personal preference.

                Our duty SG until recently was a Ithaca Model 37 with a standard stock. I found it very comfortable and practical. I have carried one for 32 years and have one of my own. We recently transitioned to Remington 870's with a pistol grip and AR type stock which is recoil absorbing. They have a surefire light on the front, whch makes the gun very heavy in my opinion. I don't care for the set up, but like the 870's with a traditional stock. The only pistol grip s/g I have ever shot that I liked was a Benneli semi-auto. I think the p/g is awkward on a pump.

                We have Ithacas that have been in service since the mid 60s that are just now being replaced with 870's. Most have no bluing or parkerizing left on them, but they are solid guns. 24/7/365 says a lot for the quality of the Ithaca guns. I will never sell mine and if our department allows us to buy any, I will stand in line to get another.

                Aloha,

                Ron
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                1978-2011

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