Need help from my LEO bretheren purchasing a duty rifle.

[jdsons]

6940

There are a lot of officers in our agency with the same problem. Are list is not that long, but the colt 6940 gives you more options, quad rail, so you can add all the goodies.
jdsons

[turbosbox]

why are they set on .223?

[tyrist]

why are they set on .223?

Same reason as every LE agency. The .223 won't go flying through numerous walls hitting bystanders.

[turbosbox]

Same reason as every LE agency. The .223 won't go flying through numerous walls hitting bystanders.

Oh, true, thanks. It isn't especially effective so that's why I asked. If I were trying to convince a department to adopt a policy, I'd go for a different caliber also.
BTW, I'm not LEO (military having been in combat with a .223, 9mm, 50cal..).

[tyrist]

Oh, true, thanks. It isn't especially effective so that's why I asked. If I were trying to convince a department to adopt a policy, I'd go for a different caliber also.
BTW, I'm not LEO (military having been in combat with a .223, 9mm, 50cal..).

LE and military while having some things in common have different goals. LE want to get the bad guy into custody for trial; the military seeks to find and destroy the bad guy.

[556fmj]

Do you have any experience with the LWRC rifles, because they look good, but I've never shot one before.

The Lwrc is good to go. I had a upper converted by by them about 5 years ago just when they started up. The gun still runs like a champ. You hardly have to clean the upper. The bolt carrier groups stays clean. All you have to do a clean the barrel. The recoil impulse is pretty much the same with any carbine length gas system. I haven't fired the mid length version yet.

With my direct impingement uppers it takes more time to clean out the carbon, fouling and crud that gets blown back into the upper.

[DLaw]

The Lwrc is good to go. I had a upper converted by by them about 5 years ago just when they started up. The gun still runs like a champ. You hardly have to clean the upper. The bolt carrier groups stays clean. All you have to do a clean the barrel. The recoil impulse is pretty much the same with any carbine length gas system. I haven't fired the mid length version yet.

With my direct impingement uppers it takes more time to clean out the carbon, fouling and crud that gets blown back into the upper.

You have any pics you care to share? You can PM me with them if you prefer.

Thanks.

[till44]

Who decided the "approved" list for your dept.? Mine was open to whatever, as long as it had a decent rep and was an AR15 variant. I'd go for a listed lower, just for the novelty of it. Go KAC if you can afford it, then I'd go Colt or LWRC. Avoid everything else, it's all sub par. I regret not getting top-top of the line for my approved AW's.

As far as the DOJ wait time. It's a government position, no real incentive on part of the employee to get a lot done or done quickly. I called and hassled them to death for them to get it done. I had three or four of their numbers on speed dial. It was finally pushed through by "Karen", after a few calls she told me to call the next day for an appointment. She wrapped everything up in about five minutes and the paperwork was at my house 3 days later.

[alex00]

Who decided the "approved" list for your dept.? Mine was open to whatever, as long as it had a decent rep and was an AR15 variant. I'd go for a listed lower, just for the novelty of it. Go KAC if you can afford it, then I'd go Colt or LWRC. Avoid everything else, it's all sub par. I regret not getting top-top of the line for my approved AW's.

As far as the DOJ wait time. It's a government position, no real incentive on part of the employee to get a lot done or done quickly. I called and hassled them to death for them to get it done. I had three or four of their numbers on speed dial. It was finally pushed through by "Karen", after a few calls she told me to call the next day for an appointment. She wrapped everything up in about five minutes and the paperwork was at my house 3 days later.

Our rangemaster and command staff came up with the approved list. The main reason for the list was uniformity to allow the use of existing ammunition (only .223) and interchangeability of magazines. The list was made to keep us from buying lowers and building them into rifles, something the Department was against for reliability. The other requirement is that the rifle must be carried in the rack between the seats, not cased in the trunk. The Sig556 may get pulled from the list if it doesn't fit in the mount. Personally, given the outlook of owning an AW just a year ago in my department, I wouldn't be complaining if they only had one gun on the list and it cost $3000.

[fegves2id]

I own an LWRCi M6A3 and sig 556 swat classic. I love both of them, and recommend both. I do not think the quad rails are needed for non-military use (too much weight). Cleaning takes a few short minutes, and is not even required for flawless function on both rifles (gas piston). For how much actual action the rifle will see (not counting extended range sessions, or rifle courses) on duty, any of those brands should make you happy.

[DLaw]

After much research and suggestions I've decided on the LWRC M6A2.. Thanks for the suggestions/help on the matter..

-DLaw