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  • WILDMAN442
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 1665

    Say a guy builds an AR...

    In a california legal setup. Bullet button and 10 rounders and the whole deal.

    But then becomes a police officer. Will this person beable to use 30 rounders and eliminate the bullet button if the rifle will NOT be used for duty?

    Thanks in advance guys

    Justin
    Originally posted by MHShooter
    The whole time I was thinking "perfect calguns story"
  • #2
    slick_711
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 4400

    I'm not a cop, but from work experience in the firearms industry:

    Possibly. The rifle needs to be registered as an AW. LEOs are able to process such registration IF they get a letter from their department saying it is a work related firearm and lists the make/model/serial #. Many departments give out these letters fairly freely and don't require the rifle to be a duty rifle; other departments do not. Some departments have a requirement that it be a factory complete rifle and/or certain brand. So it will depend on which department the officer worked for and how well he negotiated with his Chief or range officer.

    Simply becoming a cop does not give him the right to remove the bullet button and use high caps. I don't think that was your assumption, just clarifying to be safe.

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    • #3
      WILDMAN442
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 1665

      Right absolutely. Was just seeing what some of the knowledgeable folks here had to say about it.

      Thanks!

      Justin
      Originally posted by MHShooter
      The whole time I was thinking "perfect calguns story"

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      • #4
        BigDogatPlay
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2007
        • 7362

        Removing the BB on a featured OLL, or inserting a high cap to a BB gun = manufacturing an AW, LEO or no LEO.

        The gun would need to be regged as an AW and, for the paperwork and such involved it's been advised in this forum by others to, as a LEO, buy an AW and reg it and leave the OLL as is.
        -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

        Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

        Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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        • #5
          Ron-Solo
          In Memoriam
          • Jan 2009
          • 8581

          Originally posted by BigDogatPlay
          Removing the BB on a featured OLL, or inserting a high cap to a BB gun = manufacturing an AW, LEO or no LEO.

          The gun would need to be regged as an AW and, for the paperwork and such involved it's been advised in this forum by others to, as a LEO, buy an AW and reg it and leave the OLL as is.


          I have several rifles built from OLLs. They are California compliant, and I'm a LEO.
          LASD Retired
          1978-2011

          NRA Life Member
          CRPA Life Member
          NRA Rifle Instructor
          NRA Shotgun Instructor
          NRA Range Safety Officer
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          • #6
            yzErnie
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Mar 2007
            • 6309

            Originally posted by WILDMAN442
            In a california legal setup. Bullet button and 10 rounders and the whole deal.

            But then becomes a police officer. Will this person beable to use 30 rounders and eliminate the bullet button if the rifle will NOT be used for duty?

            Thanks in advance guys

            Justin
            Simple answer, no. Removal of the BB and the addition of the 30rd mags makes it an AW. An LEO cannot even use 10+ mags in it with a BB.
            The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

            Originally posted by RazoE
            I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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            • #7
              Unit74
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 2359

              I built two and tried to look for a hole.


              Short answer is you need a Chief's letter and it has to be regged as an AW.

              No other way around it. Funny how my issued Colt 6920 sleeps right next to my CA legal rifles. lame... But that's the law.

              Most of the time I take my Colt lower and drop my other high end uppers on it.

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              • #8
                Jwood562
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 1271

                true. I am a LEO with four ar type weapons. sadly only one is a registered AW. which means the rest have BB and 10rd mags.

                Im am working a way to get another letter signed by the chief to get a second AR as an AW for "training" and range practice

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                • #9
                  five.five-six
                  CGN Contributor
                  • May 2006
                  • 34877

                  a guy builds an AR



                  there, I said it

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                  • #10
                    powderedtoastman
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 1152

                    x2 what Jwood said. My agency gave me a letter stating that I'm authorized to register assault weapons for personal use. You HAVE to have a RAW and you must REGISTER it if you want to do what you stated. Only certain agencies will give out these letters. Usually smaller agencies will let their officers buy their own AR's for duty to save the department money.
                    I fly everywhere backwards.
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_dyOxAfEzI

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                    • #11
                      tazmanian devil dog
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1304

                      The laws in this state suck so bad, my God!!! When did we stop being a free country? Sorry for the rant, but sheesh, even LEOS can't do anything without "special" permission.

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                      • #12
                        alex00
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 839

                        Originally posted by lowracer
                        I think that is one of my favorite configurations of all the pictures you have posted on your site. You are really tempting me to go featureless on my next build.

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