Unloaded Open Carry q's

[KaLiFORNIA]

I read its legal to unloaded open carry in CA except in school zones, gov buildings ect. is this true? Ive also read its legal to carry ammo at the same time, is this true? What if those rounds were in a mag, but not in the gun? Ive never understood how your suppose to defend yourself from some one with a gun if you cant carry yours? Thanks for any and all comments

[alex00]

I read its legal to unloaded open carry in CA except in school zones, gov buildings ect. is this true? Ive also read its legal to carry ammo at the same time, is this true? What if those rounds were in a mag, but not in the gun? Ive never understood how your suppose to defend yourself from some one with a gun if you cant carry yours? Thanks for any and all comments

Start here.

Do a search in the 2A forum for open carry. It's complex, controversial, and not for everyone.

Yes, it is legal. It is legal to have exposed magazines, or speed loaders in your pocket. Magazines must be exposed because court cases have ruled them to be an integral part of a firearm, that if concealed render the entire firearm concealed.

I would recommend reading every Open Carry post on Calguns before you even think about doing it. Running out with an exposed handgun, and a general idea of what is legal is a recipe for disaster.

[KaLiFORNIA]

Thanks again guess I didnt search very hard

[BusBoy]

Start here.

Do a search in the 2A forum for open carry. It's complex, controversial, and not for everyone.

Yes, it is legal. It is legal to have exposed magazines, or speed loaders in your pocket. Magazines must be exposed because court cases have ruled them to be an integral part of a firearm, that if concealed render the entire firearm concealed.

I would recommend reading every Open Carry post on Calguns before you even think about doing it. Running out with an exposed handgun, and a general idea of what is legal is a recipe for disaster.

Pretty new member here and I just found the LEO part of this place... awesome discussion!

Now I'd be careful with the in bold statement as I thought that the courts have ruled even partially concealed is concealed so no difference and big trouble. I have no idea how one would carry a magazine in ones pocket and NOT fall prey to partially concealed. Opinions??

[ke6guj]

Now I'd be careful with the in bold statement as I thought that the courts have ruled even partially concealed is concealed so no difference and big trouble. I have no idea how one would carry a magazine in ones pocket and NOT fall prey to partially concealed. Opinions??

re-read what he said. He did not say that it was ok to keep magazines in one's pocket. He said that magazines had to be kept exposed, that they weren't supposed to be concealed.

[BusBoy]

sorry I typed that wrong and twisted I guess...

"or speed loaders in your pocket" Are speed loaders different when applied to being concealed?

[ke6guj]

yup, a speed loader is not part of the firearm. So, if it isn't part of a firearm, how can it be considered a concealed firearm?

[BusBoy]

I thought I had read that magazines and by my twisted logic speed loaders had to be carried on ones belt and in the open.

[BusBoy]

ah wait... i just got it... "part of the firearm" right?? duh. The speed loader doesnt stay with the pistol. gotcha! sorry about that!

[bearfanb]

Technically it is legal to carry this way, but why would you want to attract this kind of attention? It is a possible way to end up with loaded guns pointed at you weilded by leos, who were called by the freaked out masses.

[BigDogatPlay]

If you decide to OC, bring a friend, know where each and every school zone is and have a good attorney on speed dial, just in case.

[1911su16b870]

If you decide to OC, bring a friend, know where each and every school zone is and have a good attorney on speed dial, just in case.

...or bring your attorney friend with you while OC-ing!

OC-ing until after the SCOTUS rules for incorporation. It is my opinion from following the OC movement posts here on calguns that the fit has hit the shan and I sincerely hope it doesn't kill OC via the legistature enacting last minute laws in CA as a result.