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  • gdr_11
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 2586

    current CHP issue handgun?

    My grandson is in the process of applying for the CHP. For practice he would like to shoot with the same gun that is standard issue in the academy. Can anyone help with the model and caliber? Thanks
    In an emergency, always dial 1911.
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    trapshot68
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 1082

    Smith and Wesson 4006 TSW. .40 cal
    sigpic

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      gdr_11
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 2586

      Thanks!
      Last edited by gdr_11; 12-26-2009, 2:01 PM.
      In an emergency, always dial 1911.

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      • #4
        18sam2011
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 777

        Are you sure about that? I could have sworn that they recently switched over from those but can't remember to what.

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        • #5
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30242

          A few years back they switched from the S&W Model 4006 to the S&W Model 4006TSW.

          SIG made a stink about it because they, along with all other manufacturers, were not allowed to place a bid for the new replacement sidearm.
          sigpic

          "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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          • #6
            Swatguy10_15
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 611

            Just get the S&W 4006 on .40 caliber. You wont be able to get the exact weapon they have issued,but the platforms the same. also remind him to practice the not so fun stuff like..lots and lots and lots of PT (mainly running
            Embrace the suck.

            "If anything worthwhile comes of this tragedy, it should be the realization by every citizen that often the only thing that stands between them and losing everything they hold dear... is the man wearing a badge" -Ronald Reagan speaking of the newhall incident in 1970.

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            • #7
              BT JUSTICE
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 1340

              The 4006 is a boat anchor. We were dissapointed that weren't able to get the Sig, even though they significanly outbid S&W with a far superior weapon. Instead, we got essentially the same gun with light rails (don't even think about putting a light on it), different sights and NO manual safety. The decocker has a spring in it which returns the weapon to fire. One of their arguements about keeping the Smith was that they wouldn't have to buy new holsters. WRONG. They forgot that the light rail requires a special holster. The other arguement was that we would have to retrain and qualify with a strange new gun. As it was, we spent ALL DAY at the range with our new Smiths breaking them in (and just plain breaking them). That would have been plenty of time to familiarize and qualify with the Sig, and the state could have better used the money saved. I never heard the outcome of the Sig lawsuit, but I hope the state payed out on it....
              Last edited by BT JUSTICE; 12-28-2009, 9:46 AM. Reason: sp

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              • #8
                RangemasterP226
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 941

                I was surprised when CHP choose to stay with that POS gun. The bidding process was their big chance to go with a Sig or Glock.....or even stay with S&W and go with something better.
                CHP has first rate officers, but management really screwed the pooch on this one. Shocking! (not)

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                • #9
                  fullrearview
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 9371

                  I actually spoke with CHP about this the other day. We were talking about how they finally get to use tac lights on their weapons....He is a sig guy, but CHP needed a weapon that had a stainless steel frame, since motor guys sometimes drop their weapons on the highways. From what was said, sig didn't want to design that, and the powers that be liked S&W.
                  "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest."~M.Twain~

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                  • #10
                    kick Z tail out
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 866

                    Originally posted by trapshot68
                    Smith and Wesson 4006 TSW. .40 cal
                    Pile.

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                    • #11
                      tazmanian devil dog
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1304

                      Good Grief!!! It is amazing to me how politics get in the way of officer safety and/or getting the right equipment. If they got Glock, they wouldn't have to worry about anything!!!

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                      • #12
                        The Director
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2769

                        Plus the S&W is easily one of the ugliest pistols currently in production.

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                        • #13
                          grnt
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 634

                          Its all about politics and money. Who would shell out the best kickbacks to the politicos, just like to contract for the M9.

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                          • #14
                            leelaw
                            Junior Member
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 10445

                            Originally posted by fullrearview
                            CHP needed a weapon that had a stainless steel frame, since motor guys sometimes drop their weapons on the highways. From what was said, sig didn't want to design that, and the powers that be liked S&W.
                            Sig already has full stainless guns.

                            The real reason for S&W being used was because some top brass had a hardon for S&W pistols.

                            I've never heard directly from a CHP officer that he or she prefers or even likes their S&W 4006 or variant. A local shop handled a lot of the buybacks of 4006 pistols when CHP made the change. Every officer that took the offer to buy their service pistol said they did it because they carried it for so long that they couldn't see it go, not because they liked it. In most cases they said they thought the pistol as a whole was very poor. In my experience with S&W non-M&P pistols, I agree.

                            ETA: Of course this is simply anecdotal, but the sample size isn't bad.

                            It was really a pity that someone prevented CHP from evaluating or even accepting bids for better pistols for their officers.
                            Last edited by leelaw; 12-28-2009, 11:07 PM.

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                            • #15
                              9mmepiphany
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 8075

                              the fallout from Sig losing their bid for being included in the CHP contract was the introduction of the Sig 226 Elite which was all stainless and was the vehicle for introduction of their beavertail.

                              Sig's introduction of their Short Reset Trigger (SRT) mechanism was a direct result of trying to match the reset length of the S&W platform

                              too bad we can't get them here in CA...however the bright side is that Sig kept the 226ST in production for CA
                              ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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