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  • 18sam2011
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 777

    OLL training bulletin for my department

    I am putting together information to send to my training and risk management divisions to hopefully get a training bulletin out to the deputies of my department. I currently have the Sacramento PD training bulletin and calguns flow chart that I will present to them.

    Any one have any additional information that I should include in my presentation?

    Thanks in advance.
  • #2
    MossbergMan
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 1255

    Erik,
    Please reinforce the difference between listed/prohibited rifles and the new breed of off list lowers built to resemble the listed/AW rifles but with the DoJ defined "non-detachable" magazine.
    Explain that the "bullet button" releases are not illegal(sorry double negative) they have not been specifically addressed by DoJ and meet their definition of requiring a tool to remove the magazine.
    I really appreciate your efforts to educate your personnel in this area.
    You can contact me directly if you need any clarification or you have any other questions. lr45@prodigy.net
    Larry Renner
    Plus (+) P Proficiency LLC
    NRA and CA. P.O.S.T certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Tactical Instructor.
    You never rise to the occassion, you only sink to your lowest level of training" Unknown.

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    • #3
      Desert_Rat
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 2289

      Awesome! Thanks erik18

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      • #4
        run8
        Senior Member
        • May 2006
        • 875

        Where can this Sacramento Training PD bulletin be found here on Calguns, been doing a search coming up empty handed.

        TIA
        "Freedom is only protected by those who prepare to die"

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        • #5
          trendar5
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 1014

          You should get your D.A. on board with your memo, and make the deputies aware that the D.A. will not be filing cases on people for having proper OLL rifles and 10/30 mags.

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          • #6
            CSACANNONEER
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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            • Dec 2006
            • 44094

            Please include the fact that many here legally have "featureless rifles" without mag locks and +10 round mags too.

            Addressing OLL handguns would be another great service for everyone involved as well.

            Keep up the good work!
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            • #7
              retired
              Administrator
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Sep 2007
              • 9411

              Originally posted by run8
              Where can this Sacramento Training PD bulletin be found here on Calguns, been doing a search coming up empty handed.

              TIA

              Here you go.


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              • #8
                18sam2011
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 777

                Update: Risk management got back to me today. The sergeant liked what he saw and he has forwarded all my materials to our weapons and training divisions for review...

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                • #9
                  retired
                  Administrator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 9411

                  Good, soon you will be getting a promotion.

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                  • #10
                    18sam2011
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 777

                    Haha, i wish! I still have a few more years of the jail before anything!

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                    • #11
                      Purple K
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN ContributorCGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 3101

                      Originally posted by erik18
                      Haha, i wish! I still have a few more years of the jail before anything!
                      Just stay on the right side of the bars.
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                      • #12
                        El Gato
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1613

                        I did an 8hr training class for our dept. last spring... I brought in over 100 guns from our training safe and had them work the guns up ... barrel lengths, action types, serial numbers removed...etc. and had them discuss why they were illegal or legal... also brought in "Assault Weapons"... and had them diagnose... I laminated the flow chart from here as one page front/back and distributed it to the officers to put in their posse box... the flow chart is very useful and we have officers using it when they find guns...the flow chart is a VERY Very useful item...have the clerical staff print it off in color and then laminate to give to the officers is my suggestion....wouldn't hurt to also distribute a couple of copies of pictures of Monster Man or featureless builds...
                        Greebo, as a matter of feline pride, would attempt to fight or rape absolutely anything, up to and including a four-horse logging wagon. Ferocious dogs would whine and hide under the stairs when Greebo sauntered down the street. Foxes Kept away from the village. Wolves made a detour. Terry Pratchett

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                        • #13
                          five.five-six
                          CGN Contributor
                          • May 2006
                          • 34928

                          Originally posted by retired
                          great overview, the only thing I would like to see added is: regardless if there is a magazine installed or not, a rifle does not have the ability to accept a detachable magazine if a bullet button is installed


                          great work!!! makes California gun law understandable... that is a tall order

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                          • #14
                            fullrearview
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 9371

                            HA....funny...My department just got a legal advisory letter about open carry. I presented my sgt. the OLL flowchart today and he liked it. I laminated off enough for our whole department and now they all have one! I will try to get the DA on board.
                            "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest."~M.Twain~

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                            • #15
                              18sam2011
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 777

                              Training bulletin will be coming out probably some time next week...

                              Then sometime after the 1st of the year we will be doing briefing trainings with actual OLL AR15's and 10/30 and 10/20 magazines being passed around to the Deputies so they can see the bullet button, etc.

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