Wife's CCW

[MarineJohn]

Question for you guys with different agencies around the state. I am LEO with a large Department in the Fresno Area. My wife teaches continuation High School. She had her CCW before we met and since we have been together she has added quite a few of my off duty weapons to it. My question is if she was traveling to a training seminar ( as she does on a regular basis) around the state and decided to say take my Glock 19 with her instead of her usual choice (a Sig 239), Would she be sweated by your agency if the weapon had the standard 13 round magazines in it? I Have the newer ones (not marked LEO). Or shoudl I jsut get her a couple of 10 round magazines for her use.
Thanks and stay safe,
John

[five.five-six]

that is a rough question, because while you can't loan your 13 round mag out, you and your wife are legally the same person, next issue, is that particular glock 19 on her list?

in practical application I would say get her the 10 rounders and practice changing mags

[nick]

Possession of standard capacity mags isn't illegal. And since legally she owns what you own, she owns those mags.

That being said, I realize this isn't what you were asking

[r35]

I'm assuming that the Glock 19 is on her CCW? If not, she would be effectively carrying without a license.

I can't imagine that other LEO's would be very concerned about the 13 round mag, but I don't think that's the problem. God forbid she was in a situation that required her to use the firearm - the high capacity magazine would be a complication to the criminal investigation and potential subsequent civil trial that you just don't need.

"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury - my client was shot with a gun with an illegal high capacity magazine!"

If you catch my point...

Not much tactical difference between a 13 and 10 round mag in real world shooting scenarios IMHO.

[nick]

"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury - my client was shot with a gun with an illegal high capacity magazine!"

In what way is it illegal?

[Fire in the Hole]

I think you miss his point. A lawyer doesn't necessarilly want the jury to hear the truth. Lawyers choose their words to shock, confuse, and muddy the waters. Such a lawyer's statement could be explained by the defendant (your wife in this case), explaining that she had legally purchased the magazines prior to 01-01-00 per 12020(a) (23) P.C. Of course the onus would be on her now. And that is what the plaintiff's attorney is trying to do. That is, put the ball in her court, and force her testimony. Especially if she and her attorney had previously decided that it would be best for her not to take the witness stand.

Any receipts of purchase would be helpful, but not required. If she bought them at a gun show, cash on the barrel head so to speak, many booths don't provide receipts. If she can remember the date of purchase prior to 01-01-00, and perhaps the vendor's name, then she could hedge her bets, by buying a generic receipt book at a stationary store, and filling it out with a vendor's name, description of the magazines, quanity, and espicially the date of purchase. Seal it up, and keep it in your safe.

BTW, I'm not suggesting that she falsify the information.

[yzErnie]

My department issues the CCW with the specific gun listed that you qualified with. Not sure if the one she has is the same. I can only say this...I (and my deputies) wouldn't sweat her on having a different gun or high caps.

[Ron-Solo]

As long as the gun is listed on the CCW there should be no problem. Possession of HiCaps is not illegal.

[gunrun45]

Nope. Can't think of anyone who would sweat it. Then again, I'm in northern CA. Things roll a bit differently up here...

[MarineJohn]

The gun is listed on her CCW and she didn't buy the mags, they came with the gun when I bought it for myself as is the case with our Sig 228 which is also on her CCW.
Stay safe,
John

[BigDogatPlay]

Letter of the law I think would be that she was illegally transferred a standard capacity mag. But that's just my opinion. I don't think a community property thing would fly if push came to shove. But that's just me. I've got my Nomex shorts on.

Having said that, I wouldn't bat an eye at the mags. I'm not going to be able to prove any kind of transfer in the field, nor that she perhaps illegally acquired them someplace, and I'm certainly not going to jam up a brother's wife either way.

She's got a CCW, and she knows the law is how I'm going to see it.

[CCWUSA]

I concur,

The gun must be listed on her permit. The Magazine capacity would mostlikely never become an issue.