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  • gdun
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 602

    Transporting firearms under 18

    Is there any legal way to do it?
    From what i have read, the law seems to say it is ok if you are going shooting or hunting, which i would be doing.

    Most of the time I would be carrying long guns but I'd like to know about handguns as well.
    I drive a pickup that has a locking toolbox.
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    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44093

    As far as long guns, I would make sure that you have a note from your parents and that you go above and beyond and transport everything in locked containers. Although this might not be required by law, it should go a long way in showing a LEO that you are being responsible. I'm not positive about the laws around mionrs and handguns right now. It is either a no go or you need a parental permission slip like I recommended for long guns.
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      gdun
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 602

      yeah i read that about the note, that seems a little ridiculous. I just want to know what i need to be within the letter of the law, but i don't think any officer would give me a hard time for going shooting or hunting anyway.

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        CSACANNONEER
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        • Dec 2006
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        In this case, the more you can do to CYA before hand, the easier it should be for you if you ever get hassled by an anti-gun LEO.
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          gdun
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 602

          yeah that is pretty much the way i feel.

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          • #6
            JagerTroop
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 3922

            Originally posted by gdun
            Is there any legal way to do it?
            From what i have read, the law seems to say it is ok if you are going shooting or hunting, which i would be doing.

            Most of the time I would be carrying long guns but I'd like to know about handguns as well.
            I drive a pickup that has a locking toolbox.

            Just remeber, that a truckbed toolbox IS NOT acceptable for use as a "secure container". It's not spelled out in the PC, but it is well known to be a no-no. I'm just trying to keep ya safe As it has been stated... be sure to go above and beyond when it comes to transporting, in your situation.
            -A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.*
            *participation may vary by location. Not valid in California.

            Originally posted by ar15barrels
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            Welcome to class.
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            • #7
              alex00
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 839

              For the sake of discussion I assume you are over 16, because you are driving. Here is the relevant Penal Code for handguns and minors:

              12101. (a) (1) A minor shall not possess a pistol, revolver, or
              other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
              (2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply if one of the following
              circumstances exists:

              (C) The minor is at least 16 years of age, the minor has the prior
              written consent of his or her parent or legal guardian and the minor
              is actively engaged in, or is in direct transit to or from, a lawful
              recreational sport, including, but not limited to, competitive
              shooting, or agricultural, ranching, or hunting activity...
              I snipped out the previous two sections that say a parent needs to be present or responsible adult. The (C) sections applies to you if you are 16 or older.

              Just have a note from your parents and make sure you are going hunting or target shooting. Make sure you drive safely, and all your vehicle equipment is working well.

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                gdun
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 602

                yes i am over 16. So if i can't use my locking toolbox, what can i use?
                I've heard that i can use a backpack or dufflebag and just use a masterlock to hold the two zippers together. Will that work?

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                • #9
                  alex00
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 839

                  Originally posted by gdun
                  yes i am over 16. So if i can't use my locking toolbox, what can i use?
                  I've heard that i can use a backpack or dufflebag and just use a masterlock to hold the two zippers together. Will that work?
                  Yes, that will work fine. Most people agree that a backpack or duffel bag are secure. I'm not sure where the idea that a locking toolbox won't work comes from. It is neither a glove box or utility compartment. I personally wouldn't hassle you for the gun being secured in the toolbox. Try not to over think it too much. If there is a lock between you and the gun, and it's not in the glove box or center console you will be good to go.

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                  • #10
                    gdun
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 602

                    thanks guys i think i got it now. i also dont see why a tool box would not work

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                    • #11
                      JagerTroop
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 3922

                      Originally posted by gdun
                      thanks guys i think i got it now. i also dont see why a tool box would not work
                      I hear ya... stupid CA laws. Read this.

                      12026.1.(a) Section 12025 shall not be construed to prohibit any citizen of the United States over the age of 18 years who resides or is temporarily within this state, and who is not within the excepted classes prescribed by Section 12021 or 12021.1 of this code or Section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, from transporting or carrying any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, provided that the following applies to the firearm:
                      (1) The firearm is within other than the utility or glove compartment.
                      As I stated in the link, I don't think a truck tool box is technically "in" the vehicle.

                      Stupid? YES, but what can you do?
                      -A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.*
                      *participation may vary by location. Not valid in California.

                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      And yes, this IS gun school.
                      Welcome to class.
                      Originally posted by bdsmchs
                      There is life outside of Calguns
                      Originally posted by IrishPirate
                      stop looking to the internet to tell you everything you should do.....sack up and just do what you want!!!!!

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                      • #12
                        CSACANNONEER
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 44093

                        Originally posted by JagerTroop
                        I hear ya... stupid CA laws. Read this.



                        As I stated in the link, I don't think a truck tool box is technically "in" the vehicle.

                        Stupid? YES, but what can you do?
                        I used to store tools in the lockable GUN BOX bolted to my bed. I'd keep guns in there too but, handguns would always be in a locked box inside the big locked gun box. The funny thing is my "gun box" looked just like most people's "tool boxes", go figure?
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                        • #13
                          alex00
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 839

                          Originally posted by JagerTroop
                          As I stated in the link, I don't think a truck tool box is technically "in" the vehicle.
                          I think that is a stretch to say the bed area of a truck is not "in" the vehicle for the meaning of the quoted penal code. If the truckbed does not comprise "within" because it does not have a roof, then neither would a convertable with the top down.

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