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  • #16
    Fire in the Hole
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 1563

    chris wrote:

    "it seems that there are some pessimistic responses and automatic guilty responses here. i did not start this thread to receive such responses. as i always thought you are innocent til proven guilty. how sad to see some of the responses here."

    Do not make the mistake of confusing pessimism with realism. Sometimes the straight-shooting no BS information from LEO's may appear harsh, but we're used to facing the cold hard facts of reality, and that is what you will receive from this sub-forum. Straight answers free from smoke, is what distinguishes us from other forums. This is why people bring their questions to the LEO forum. These answers do not come with a kiss and a hug, nor feel-good encouragement to try something, if in our experience, we believe that it will either waste you time, or hurt you in the long run. Anyway, a person who asks a question of anybody, bears the ultimate responsibilty for the answer(s) received. And yes, you are innocent until proven guilty. Even though it might not seem so to the uninitiated, we are trying to keep you from aiding the prosecution in proving you guilt.


    "i know the CHP wanted a DUI i guess it ruined for him that i had not been drinking."

    On this, I won't even bother with a comment.

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    • #17
      Ron-Solo
      In Memoriam
      • Jan 2009
      • 8581

      Originally posted by chris
      it seems that there are some pessimistic responses and automatic guilty responses here. i did not start this thread to receive such responses. as i always thought you are innocent til proven guilty. how sad to see some of the responses here.

      i did go to the courthouse today in Simi Valley and i was told i have to go to the Ventura courthouse. my courtesy notice gave 2 locations to go and Simi Valley is closer since I live in OC.

      i appreciate the honesty and responses but some i take are a little rude. that is the attitude i got from the CHP who pulled me over and i was nothing more than respectful and honest, and tired a little since it was late at nite.

      i will still present my case as it is my right and it seems that is not the thing to do. if i lose oh well i'll go to traffic school. i did find out i can take it online. since Ventura is quite a drive from where i live.

      i'm not thin skinned as some may say but again i'm innocent til proven guilty!

      for those that were pleasent and respectful thank you to those that were'nt that was the attitude i received that night. i know the CHP wanted a DUI i guess it ruined for him that i had not been drinking.
      Don't ask the question if you don't want to hear the answer.
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      • #18
        retired
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        • Sep 2007
        • 9409

        Chris, no one here is being rude, they are just advising you, based on their experience, the reality of what will probably occur in court.

        As far as your statement about innocence; you pretty much admitted to us in the OP that you were speeding. It may not have been an intentional act on your part, due to the defective speedo, but you said nothing that would have intimated that you were not speeding, right.

        We have explained what you need that might help your case, but we have also explained the reality of what the judge will probably do.

        Good luck in court.

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        • #19
          chris
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Apr 2006
          • 19452

          Originally posted by retired
          We have explained what you need that might help your case, but we have also explained the reality of what the judge will probably do.

          Good luck in court.
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          • #20
            tyrist
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 4564

            Originally posted by chris
            unless i'm given the option to go to traffic school. i hope i can take it online though.
            If you contest a ticket you lose the ability to take traffic school.

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            • #21
              chris
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Apr 2006
              • 19452

              Originally posted by tyrist
              If you contest a ticket you lose the ability to take traffic school.
              that is something i did not know. thanks for the info.
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              • #22
                Fire in the Hole
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 1563

                Originally posted by tyrist
                If you contest a ticket you lose the ability to take traffic school.
                I know that is the case in LA courts, and probably for many metropolitian courts. But the judges up here will allow traffic school even after the trial, and the defendant has been found guilty, and meets the necessary protocols. It's mostly up to the judge. It's not set in concrete.



                I'm thinking that with the variables the OP has referred to, a TBD would be his best bet, especially with the travel distance.

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                • #23
                  retired
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                  • Sep 2007
                  • 9409

                  i know the CHP wanted a DUI i guess it ruined for him that i had not been drinking.
                  Chris, I forgot about this line when I was typing out my prior response in between being with family earlier. If I had not, I would have addressed it then.

                  This is a snarky comment and unwarranted. Please do not repeat this type of comment.

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                  • #24
                    chris
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 19452

                    Originally posted by retired
                    Chris, I forgot about this line when I was typing out my prior response in between being with family earlier. If I had not, I would have addressed it then.

                    This is a snarky comment and unwarranted. Please do not repeat this type of comment.
                    the only reason i stated is due the officers attitude when he was speaking to me. it was unwarrented on his part and i was respectfull to him and he was not. i know his behavior is not the norm of all officers and you know as well as i do and others that this type of officer exists. and it should not be that way the situation should dictate the attitude at the stop IMO.

                    i did this in Iraq. one day i would nice and waving to children but that night if you F with my i will kill anyone that moves the wrong way. this in Iraq only.
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                    • #25
                      chris
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 19452

                      Originally posted by chris
                      that is something i did not know. thanks for the info.
                      Originally posted by tyrist
                      If you contest a ticket you lose the ability to take traffic school.
                      Originally posted by Fire in the Hole
                      I know that is the case in LA courts, and probably for many metropolitian courts. But the judges up here will allow traffic school even after the trial, and the defendant has been found guilty, and meets the necessary protocols. It's mostly up to the judge. It's not set in concrete.



                      I'm thinking that with the variables the OP has referred to, a TBD would be his best bet, especially with the travel distance.
                      that was something else i was thinking. i figured it would be up to the judge if i was to lose that i can take traffic school. i still have my options open as to what i want to do. the distance is quite far.
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                      • #26
                        Harley Quinn
                        Member
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 480

                        I believe a guy/girl has to do what a guy/girl has to do...
                        To ask advise or information is one thing. Then decide

                        Normal is one day trial...But, if your speedometer is defective that is not a defense..Simple...

                        Take the drivers school (if first offense and they allow) it shows willingness to learn and be a better driver.
                        The CHP stopped you because you were speeding

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                        • #27
                          chris
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 19452

                          Originally posted by Harley Quinn
                          I believe a guy/girl has to do what a guy/girl has to do...
                          To ask advise or information is one thing. Then decide

                          Normal is one day trial...But, if your speedometer is defective that is not a defense..Simple...

                          Take the drivers school (if first offense and they allow) it shows willingness to learn and be a better driver.
                          The CHP stopped you because you were speeding

                          Regards
                          the last time i went to traffic school was in 2003. if memory serves you have to have 18 months or so to take it again. i have say i meet that criterea if i'm correct on the time between traffic school.
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