7 Fatals-Police Pursuit

[Fire in the Hole]

The California Highway Patrol says a car fleeing from Dinuba Police ran a stop sign and slammed into a pickup, killing three people in the car and four young children in the truck.

The CHP says police in Dinuba, southeast of Fresno, were trying to stop the car Saturday afternoon for a traffic infraction.

The CHP says the truck was carrying two adults and their five children. Four of the children _ ages 1, 3, 4 and 7 _ were ejected and died at the scene. The fifth child _ age 8 _ and the parents were taken to a hospital. The adults were identified as 29-year-old Carlos Salazar Jr. and 26-year-old Jennifer Salazar of Orange Cove.

All three men in the car being chased were killed. Their identities and ages weren't known.





I wonder if the four killed children were riding illegally in the cargo bed of this pick-up truck? None-the-less, what a horrible tradgedy. May God bless these innocent lives.


Sounds like the suspects have already received capital punishment.

[Blue]

The adults were identified as 29-year-old Carlos Salazar Jr. and 26-year-old Jennifer Salazar of Orange Cove.

All three men in the car being chased were killed. Their identities and ages weren't known.





I wonder if the four killed children were riding illegally in the cargo bed of this pick-up truck? None-the-less, what a horrible tradgedy. May God bless these innocent lives.


Sounds like the suspects have already received capital punishment.

I'm willing to bet that none of the kids were buckled properly.

How do you know they have the WORST record, have you been compiling statistics. That is a very big brush you are using and tho J B may not be offended, others may be due to that statement.

[bruceflinch]

Saw this on the news. How sad for the Family. Need more info to decide if the BG got their just reward.

[Unit74]

Just not worth it.... Hard to arm chair QB it, and I wouldn't have any sympathy if only the crooks were DRT, but damn that's a high price for a busted tail light....

[Fire in the Hole]

Just not worth it.... Hard to arm chair QB it, and I wouldn't have any sympathy if only the crooks were DRT, but damn that's a high price for a busted tail light....

I hadn't heard the the PC was over a mechanical violation, but if it was; then it's just the tip of the iceberg.

[michelim21]

Stop sign violation. How many members of LE Agencies have a do not chase policy unless for a violent crime? I was talking to a member of a department and that was what he said the department policy was. It is different for CHP from what I understand from him.

[Unit74]

I hadn't heard the the PC was over a mechanical violation,

That was just a generalzation... not meant to be specific.

[tyrist]

Stop sign violation. How many members of LE Agencies have a do not chase policy unless for a violent crime? I was talking to a member of a department and that was what he said the department policy was. It is different for CHP from what I understand from him.

You just have to have more than an infraction for most agencies. If we get an airship overhead we will usually back off but, even then it often doesn't prevent the knucklehead from driving crazy. Nobody risk life and limb because they don't want a ticket. There will be tragedies however, if we were forbidden to pursue I can guarantee almost everyone would just run when they are in a vehicle. Remember you are dealing with criminals. When I have talked to them afterward they have stated they drove reckless hoping we would be called off.

[wikidklown]

Chasing those BG were the right thing to do it just so happen that the truck was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I feel sorry for the family especially the children that died and also for the survivors whose lives will never be the same again. This is the reason why I never start driving unless my children are buckled up although they are 11 and 14

Those F'ers that ran obviously had something more serious and had they gotten away will continue to do bad stuff.

[J_B]

You just have to have more than an infraction for most agencies. If we get an airship overhead we will usually back off but, even then it often doesn't prevent the knucklehead from driving crazy. Nobody risk life and limb because they don't want a ticket. There will be tragedies however, if we were forbidden to pursue I can guarantee almost everyone would just run when they are in a vehicle. Remember you are dealing with criminals. When I have talked to them afterward they have stated they drove reckless hoping we would be called off.

That was the case a few years ago when an adjoining agency lost the car because the pursuing unit decided to back off but air came overhead and located the vehicle still speedind, running intersections, driving wrongside of the road etc....with no units behind him.

Air broadcast it to us as he was coming into the county. The air unit didn't have the vehicle spot lighted or anything, just following the vehicle.

I happened to be driving through the intersection when they advised us he was approaching that very same intersection..as I turned around, he hit a compact w/5 people in it. They all had to be extracted. Subject ran as I was pulling up. Then wanted a shot at the title in the middle of the street while cars were driving by when I took him into custody. ALL OVER A DUI....

[J_B]

No offense to any Latino members here, but Latin people have the WORST record for using proper carseats/buckling methods in cars. I'm willing to bet that none of the kids were buckled properly.

HAHAHAH, none taken!! I remember my old school grandpa...he was straight from Mexico. Would pile all of us in that POS truck w/no seatbelts, sitting on eachothers laps., others rideing in the back of the bed.

Even as I got older, 9-10, I remember piling into cars as well, no seatbelts, to go to the store or whatever.

[nobody33]

It was a stolen car. If LE agencies don't chase people then everyone will run... and the rule of law just breaks down. It's tragic that these people died. However, the basic rule of law requires that police enforce the laws. If they don't anarchy will rule.


Why pull over if the police won't stop you? Frankly, it's worth running right now even if the police chase you. 2800.2a should come with a mandatory prison sentence.

[BigDogatPlay]

This is one of those situations, that some of us have seen from time to time, that is so bad it both sucks and blows.

The BGs made a choice to run. I'm sure they thought they were hot stuff right up until the point of impact. The people wiped out in the other vehicle are victims of those BGs no different than if the BGs had pulled up with their nines and foh-tays and opened fire.

Why pull over if the police won't stop you? Frankly, it's worth running right now even if the police chase you. 2800.2a should come with a mandatory prison sentence.

+1000

[Eye-In-The-Sky]

my Gpa cut the seatbelts off on his impala coz us kids kept slamming the seatbelt buckle on the door. i kept the center buckle as a trophy. ah! good ole days. "we don need no stinkin seeetbelts"

[yzErnie]

This is an unfortunate situation. Don't feel to bad for the fools that were running but do feel for the family of those in the truck that were killed. However, if those kids had been had been belted in or properly restrained the result may have been much better.

Until the juries and magistrates stop holding the LEO and their agencies responsible and start holding the jackholes accountable for their actions we will continue to see more restrictive pursuit policies. It is a sad day in law enforcemnet when we have to have those policies in place. Once again, a typical scenario I have seen many times over my career...make the good guys out to be the bad guys.