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  • showerbabies
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    • Apr 2006
    • 188

    BJJ for LEOs?

    Hi all.

    I'm a recent acad grad and would like to get into bjj.

    1. Has any gone through the Gracie 40hours GST training? Thoughts?
    2. Any local East Bay gyms tailor classes for LEOs (controls VS chokes)?
    3. Any other seminars coming? I missed the one in Brentwood last Sat, and will miss the one in Redwood City Nov 18th.

    Thanks!
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    explosivewhale
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    • Mar 2014
    • 1083

    Theres a program called adopt a cop which helped pay for part of my BJJ school fees. No need to buy into the gracie family of academies as there are many out there. If youre in norcal, look into the rice brothers jiu jitsu academy in redding. Theyre good dudes.

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    • #3
      sjb323
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2018
      • 78

      Anyone who has trained in BJJ (or any martial art) will tell you that one week of training will not get you too far. As a new student of the art, you'll be way better off training at least three days a week to get any kind of proficiency. It's a commitment, but it's also addicting.

      Congrats on the graduation.

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        SB1942
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        • Mar 2019
        • 281

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        • #5
          SoCalSurvivor
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2014
          • 69

          Lots of BJJ academies are LEO friendly these days. As was mentioned earlier, one week of training isn?t going to be nearly enough. Find the academies you?re interested in and do a trial class. Figure out which place has the right culture and schedule for you.
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          • #6
            Spyder
            CGN Contributor
            • Mar 2008
            • 16814

            Skip the Gracie thing, find a gym that has a culture you like, and start training. It doesn't need to be LE specific at all, any training, both gi and nogi, will put you leaps and bounds ahead of officers who don't.

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            • #7
              SVT-40
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2008
              • 12894

              I wouldn't go crazy with the BJJ stuff before you get hired someplace. Once you get hired you will find the culture of that agency and find those guys there which can guide you.

              Getting hired should be your first priority.

              I was a FTO for decades. The biggest issue guys had in training was report writing. You can be the best hand to hand fighter on the planet, but if you can't write a good report you aren't going to succeed.

              I had a number of guys who were great at the physical side of the job, but couldn't write a simple narrative report.

              They got canned.

              Remember only a very few folks actually see you do your job, but many will see and evaluate the written product of what you do.

              Your reports will be reviewed by your field Sgt. The Lt. any Detective assigned to further investigate the case.

              Then it goes to the DA office, then the defendants attorney and eventually a judge and jury.

              Big cases could be reviewed by dozens of others in and out of Law Enforcement.

              My suggestion is go to your local Jr. College and enroll in a basic English writing class.

              Good luck.
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              • #8
                mixicus
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 624

                GST is a nice learning block. The techniques are much more applicable than many past iterations of POST ACT. I would recommend it as an intro or tune up but without regular training your skills will largely evaporate.

                As for regular training, find a gym that has an environment you like with a schedule that is convenient for you to regularly attend (i.e. twice a week). Don?t focus on a LE curriculum, techniques are techniques. You will just have to sort a few out that aren?t within department policy/state law, such as an RNC.

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                • #9
                  Spyder
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 16814

                  Originally posted by SVT-40
                  You can be the best hand to hand fighter on the planet, but if you can't write a good report you aren't going to succeed.

                  I had a number of guys who were great at the physical side of the job, but couldn't write a simple narrative report.
                  While I agree that report writing is incredibly important, BJJ isn't just about hand to hand fighting. That's a very small part of it. Long term physical and mental health, confidence, thinking and acting under pressure and time constraints, communication, and so many more improvements in day to day life come from time on the mats. Yea, being proficient at BJJ will make you more likely to win a one on one fight, but it will make the entire rest of your life better as well, which translates over to improved job performance on all metrics.

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                  • #10
                    Moose243
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2018
                    • 37

                    SVT he didn't ask how to get hired or how to pass training, he asked about BJJ.

                    OP....BJJ is the single most important "physical" skill you can have in LEO today. The old school days of punching a guy into handcuffs is not acceptable (not saying sometimes you need to punch someone). Being able to control someone into handcuffs looks 1000x better. As others have said BJJ will give you a lot more then just some hand to hand skill, it is a good workout, you get use to being uncomfortable, you get use to physical encounters, and more important you learn to be able to think through physical encounters rather then just red lining. Most BJJ schools are cop friendly and offer discounts. I am routinely in class where 50+% of the class is LEOs. Find a school close to your house and you like the vibe, then just start training. Don't worry about focusing in LEO techniques. Yes some techniques will be more applicable than others. But don't worry about that, just train. You will be better for it.

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                    • #11
                      PeteH
                      Junior Member
                      • Oct 2021
                      • 74

                      The training woud be good to have-but don't let it get you overconfident. There's a lot of dirtbags taking the same type of training. Don't worry so much about what it looks like-your job is to win and go home at the end of the shift. Our Department had a "modified" for LE program by Gracie. But they also said-bottom line if it's do or die and you have to rip their throat out with your teeth to win and stay alive DO IT!

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                      • #12
                        JCHavasu
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2016
                        • 672

                        I retired in 2018 after 29 years. I trained in aikido back in the early 90?s when it was all the rage. I wish I had been aware of BJJ at the time but it was really just starting in the U.S. I started BJJ about a year ago at 56 years old and wish I had started 30+ years ago.

                        As SVT40 said, getting hired should be the priority. A discussion about what you should focus on to get hired is a separate one, because BJJ will give back to you even if you aren?t in LE. So I highly recommend it. Just an opinion from an old dog.
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                        • #13
                          cre34
                          Member
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 176

                          Originally posted by showerbabies
                          Hi all.

                          I'm a recent acad grad and would like to get into bjj.

                          1. Has any gone through the Gracie 40hours GST training? Thoughts?
                          2. Any local East Bay gyms tailor classes for LEOs (controls VS chokes)?
                          3. Any other seminars coming? I missed the one in Brentwood last Sat, and will miss the one in Redwood City Nov 18th.

                          Thanks!
                          I?m a retired Leo and a brown belt under Charles Gracie, I help teach/coach at the Livermore Academy. We have quite a few current and former Leo?s that train there. Checkout out our website/locations at www.charlesgracie.com We have an affiliate in Hayward as well BAFA. Good luck.

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                          • #14
                            gvbsat
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 1004

                            IMO, I think BJJ should be a requirement for any person who is operating / working under 832. Or at the very minimum a few weeks of active sparring/ training / rolling. It will get you comfortable handling people and most importantly you will find that there are 125# females that can tie you up pretty good. It will teach you to not judge an individuals fight by the way they look. I however do not recommend going the Gracie route. Heres why, they wont let you actively spar till you ?earn? your blue belt. Also, they require you to purchase ?their? gi?s at twice the cost. I put earn in ?? because I think it a disservice to not let beginners actively spar. Just let them spar with experienced people. I also dont think you earned a blue belt if you have no sparing experience. I also recommend finding a gym / dojo with women who train there. That tells me they tend to weed out the DB?s and they foster a good training environment. Less of a chance you will run into the dude who isnt a good training partner. Plenty of places now as its pretty popular these days.

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                            • #15
                              dno
                              Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 252

                              The best self defense training I have experienced was at the Magda Institute in the SFV. Cass Magda is a disciple of Dan Inosanto(?), covers techniques that will improve your punching and kicking power and effectiveness. The uniform for class is sweat pants/shorts and t-shirt with school logo, no gi's. You also wear tennis shoes. No kata's, no punching or kicking air, always hitting a bag held by a fellow student.

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