Leo selling to leo ???

[donutboi]

We both in tier 2. I plan to sell 2 off roster handguns to my coworker (PPT). Is there any new law i should be concerned about? Thanks

[9Cal_OC]

No.

[Che762x39]

Now you have to do it thru a FFL and register them.

Back in the day, when I was a LEO, we bought and sold firearms in the Locker Room with just a handwritten Bill of Sale.

[lexo98]

You mean your not going to mark them up 3x what you paid and put them in the marketplace?

[mossy]

You mean your not going to mark them up 3x what you paid and put them in the marketplace?

Tier 2 LEO can only sell off rosters to other LEO.

[donutboi]

You mean your not going to mark them up 3x what you paid and put them in the marketplace?

Are you even a LEO?

[caliprep]

Are you even a LEO?

So tier 2 and 3's can only sell off rosters to each other? Thats interesting.

[Librarian]

So tier 2 and 3's can only sell off rosters to each other? Thats interesting.

And to Tier 1 LE.

But remember, that's only off-Roster guns they acquired using their LE credentials. Off-Roster guns received through intrafamilial transfer, inheritance or purchasing PPT are fine to sell to any non-prohibited CA resident.

[G19xG45]

Question for Tier 2 and 3. What happens when you retire with off roster weapons and decide to sell. How does that work and is there a CA DOJ rule/opinion.

[Quiet]

Question for Tier 2 and 3. What happens when you retire with off roster weapons and decide to sell. How does that work and is there a CA DOJ rule/opinion.

The restriction that the off-Roster handguns can only be transferred to other LEOs (Tier 1-3) remains, even if the owner is no longer considered a LEO due to retirement or no longer being employed as a Tier 2-3 LEO. [PC 32000(c)(1)]

CA DOJ BOF is required to keep track (database) of the off-Roster handguns acquired via Tier 2-3 LEO exemption and flag them so they can only be transferred to another LEO (Teir 1-3). [PC 32000(e)]
^DROS submission to a non-exempt person will cause the transfer to be denied during the 10 day wait.

[TrailerparkTrash]

The restriction that the off-Roster handguns can only be transferred to other LEOs (Tier 1-3) remains, even if the owner is no longer considered a LEO due to retirement or no longer being employed as a Tier 2-3 LEO. [PC 32000(c)(1)]

CA DOJ BOF is required to keep track (database) of the off-Roster handguns acquired via Tier 2-3 LEO exemption and flag them so they can only be transferred to another LEO (Teir 1-3). [PC 32000(e)]
^DROS submission to a non-exempt person will cause the transfer to be denied during the 10 day wait.

Quiet, I read 32000 and I’m a bit confused. To clarify since retiring, is it prohibited to give one?s legally obtained off-roster firearms away to one?s adult kids (via intra-familia transfer)?

[Quiet]

Quiet, I read 32000 and I'm a bit confused. To clarify since retiring, is it prohibited to give one's legally obtained off-roster firearms away to one's adult kids (via intra-familia transfer)?

If Tier 1 LEO, then no.

If Tier 2-3 LEO, then yes. [PC 32000(c)(1)]

Per CA DOJ BOF...
When the off-Roster handgun is initially acquired by a Tier 2-3 LEO from a CA FFL dealer, the CA DROS process will flag that off-Roster handgun with a LEO only restriction for transfers due to the handgun being acquired via Tier 2-3 LEO exemption and transferring that flag off-Roster handgun to a non-LEO will violate PC 32000(a)(1).
^Supposedly, per the direction of the CA OAG, CA DOJ BOF is simply documenting when this occurs and then turning the info over to BATFE, so that the LEO can be prosecuted under Federal laws as an unlicensed firearms dealer (charged with Federal felonies, instead of CA misdemeanors).



Penal Code 32000
(c)(1) Notwithstanding Section 26825, a person licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive, shall not process the sale or transfer of an unsafe handgun between a person who has obtained an unsafe handgun pursuant to an exemption specified in paragraph (6) or (7) of subdivision (b) and a person who is not exempt from the requirements of this section.
(e)(1) The Department of Justice shall maintain a database of unsafe handguns obtained pursuant to paragraph (4), (6), or (7) of subdivision (b). This requirement shall apply retroactively to include information in the department?s possession. The department may satisfy this requirement by maintaining this information in any existing firearm database that reasonably facilitates compliance with this subdivision.

[Steponmytoes]

I thought the LEO to LEO rule was exchange of cash followed by fist bump?

[TrailerparkTrash]

If Tier 1 LEO, then no.

If Tier 2-3 LEO, then yes. [PC 32000(c)(1)]

Per CA DOJ BOF...
When the off-Roster handgun is initially acquired by a Tier 2-3 LEO from a CA FFL dealer, the CA DROS process will flag that off-Roster handgun with a LEO only restriction for transfers due to the handgun being acquired via Tier 2-3 LEO exemption and transferring that flag off-Roster handgun to a non-LEO will violate PC 32000(a)(1).
^Supposedly, per the direction of the CA OAG, CA DOJ BOF is simply documenting when this occurs and then turning the info over to BATFE, so that the LEO can be prosecuted under Federal laws as an unlicensed firearms dealer (charged with Federal felonies, instead of CA misdemeanors).



Penal Code 32000
(c)(1) Notwithstanding Section 26825, a person licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive, shall not process the sale or transfer of an unsafe handgun between a person who has obtained an unsafe handgun pursuant to an exemption specified in paragraph (6) or (7) of subdivision (b) and a person who is not exempt from the requirements of this section.
(e)(1) The Department of Justice shall maintain a database of unsafe handguns obtained pursuant to paragraph (4), (6), or (7) of subdivision (b). This requirement shall apply retroactively to include information in the department?s possession. The department may satisfy this requirement by maintaining this information in any existing firearm database that reasonably facilitates compliance with this subdivision.

Got it, thank you.

[NorCalBusa]

What differentiates the Tiers? (IANALEO)