Does Fed LEO get SCRA protection?

[Romeo_alpha01]

Curious for you Fed LE guys on here:

I'm going through the hiring process with a few agencies. While this is happening, my lease is up and I'll be attempting to either stay in the complex I'm currently living, or find a place that does a month to month for relatively cheap.

Hypothetically, let's say I renew my lease in November, and get an EOD date during my lease. Would I have the same protection to break a lease to do training and transfer to whatever FO I am assigned to? Or would I have to eat the remainder of lease whether I am physically living at the location or not?

One of the agencies I applied to does cover relocation fees while the other does not. Neither has confirmed whether a lease can be broken without repercussions.

Input appreciated. Thanks folks.

[mossy]

Curious for you Fed LE guys on here:

I'm going through the hiring process with a few agencies. While this is happening, my lease is up and I'll be attempting to either stay in the complex I'm currently living, or find a place that does a month to month for relatively cheap.

Hypothetically, let's say I renew my lease in November, and get an EOD date during my lease. Would I have the same protection to break a lease to do training and transfer to whatever FO I am assigned to? Or would I have to eat the remainder of lease whether I am physically living at the location or not?

One of the agencies I applied to does cover relocation fees while the other does not. Neither has confirmed whether a lease can be broken without repercussions.

Input appreciated. Thanks folks.

does not look like we are covered

The SCRA applies to the following servicemembers:

Active duty members of the Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, and Coast Guard;
Members of the Reserve component when serving on active duty;
Members of the National Guard component mobilized under federal orders for more than 30 consecutive days; or
Active duty commissioned officers of the Public Health Service or the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.


have fun at FLETC.

[Romeo_alpha01]

does not look like we are covered

The SCRA applies to the following servicemembers:

Active duty members of the Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, and Coast Guard;
Members of the Reserve component when serving on active duty;
Members of the National Guard component mobilized under federal orders for more than 30 consecutive days; or
Active duty commissioned officers of the Public Health Service or the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.


have fun at FLETC.

Hehe I'm doing the structural interview, ASAC interview, and PT test early November. If I'm successful there I'll get a COE pending the other tests prior to EOD. I just hope I EOD before my 37th birthday.

The other agency has been crickets but who knows.

Guess I'll have to muscle through a monthly living situation until I get better confirmation on things.

[mossy]

If it's getting close to your 37th you can apply to the BOP. They hire quickly and will stop the clock. If we could justify it I'm sure we would EOD a traffic cone.

[DORINS9956]

Broken lease coverage

Hehe I'm doing the structural interview, ASAC interview, and PT test early November. If I'm successful there I'll get a COE pending the other tests prior to EOD. I just hope I EOD before my 37th birthday.

The other agency has been crickets but who knows.

Guess I'll have to muscle through a monthly living situation until I get better confirmation on things.

I'm retired fed LE and I don't remember any benefits like the gov't reimbursing you for leases broken. You might talk with your landlord and try to work something out.
If you're close to your 37th birthday, take anything you can to get appointed and sworn in. Your FLECTC date may not happen immediately, but at least you're in the system. You can lateral to another agency once you get appointed and sworn with one. After 37, you're not in a good place.
As a rule, don't expect a lot of fabulous benefits from federal LE service. FLETC, however, is fun as long as you are't there in the summer.

[Hornetsnest]

I just hope I EOD before my 37th birthday.

Are you prior military? Most agencies will give you the age waiver.

CBP OFO and USBP will hire non-military street hires up to age 40.

[mossy]

this shutdown situation might slow your hiring process down. might want to get clarification from your agency if they will pause the process till congress gets its act together.

[Romeo_alpha01]

If it's getting close to your 37th you can apply to the BOP. They hire quickly and will stop the clock. If we could justify it I'm sure we would EOD a traffic cone.

Didn't think of doing BOP now that you mention it. Looking at the USAJOBs listing it's a 0007 series job. Without saying much I'm in the running for 1801 series and 0083 series. The 1801 recently got LEAP benefits so I'm really gunning for this spot. The 0083 spot would put me in DC Metro area but does not have a clock.

I'm retired fed LE and I don't remember any benefits like the gov't reimbursing you for leases broken. You might talk with your landlord and try to work something out.
If you're close to your 37th birthday, take anything you can to get appointed and sworn in. Your FLETC date may not happen immediately, but at least you're in the system. You can lateral to another agency once you get appointed and sworn with one. After 37, you're not in a good place.
As a rule, don't expect a lot of fabulous benefits from federal LE service. FLETC, however, is fun as long as you aren't there in the summer.

I'm honestly interested more for the training that comes with the job. Both series I applied for isn't glamorous by most of those who are looking at the series to become 1811s, but the experience is something I desire over the benefits.

I hear stories of really bad allergies at Glynco. The 0083 would put me there, but the 1801 would actually put me in Artesia. I would assume one is hot, the other is hotter. Any experience with either?

this shutdown situation might slow your hiring process down. might want to get clarification from your agency if they will pause the process till congress gets its act together.

When I go in for my interview in November, I'll pose this question to the ASAC.

Are you prior military? Most agencies will give you the age waiver.

CBP OFO and USBP will hire non-military street hires up to age 40.

USBP is pretty low on my list for a few reasons, lol. But I'll consider it now that you mention the age restriction going up. When I checked months back it was still 37 from how I read both postings.

Is OFO just a standard officer or is it something more specific? When I glossed over the posting a few month back it required some sort of degree. The degree I possess didn't seem to be acceptable at the time I read the requirements.

[Hornetsnest]

USBP is pretty low on my list for a few reasons, lol. But I'll consider it now that you mention the age restriction going up. When I checked months back it was still 37 from how I read both postings.

Is OFO just a standard officer or is it something more specific? When I glossed over the posting a few month back it required some sort of degree. The degree I possess didn't seem to be acceptable at the time I read the requirements.

I dont blame you for feeling that way about USBP right now. Those folks got it rough right now and its probably not going to get significantly better anytime soon.

The OFO job I was referring to was the regular CBPO position. The position you may have saw could have been the CBP OPR position which is essentially an 1811 CBP Internal Affairs Investivator. Or it could have been an Aggie Specialist position as well.

[Romeo_alpha01]

I dont blame you for feeling that way about USBP right now. Those folks got it rough right now and its probably not going to get significantly better anytime soon.

The OFO job I was referring to was the regular CBPO position. The position you may have saw could have been the CBP OPR position which is essentially an 1811 CBP Internal Affairs Investivator. Or it could have been an Aggie Specialist position as well.

Funny you mention this because there's been rumor the 1801 job I applied for had some of them deploy to the border instead of their regular duties. This was last year however when the border incidents peaked. Not sure how this is now but wouldn't be surprised.

I do notice that CBP has quite a few openings, and a 25% increase if you select SFO. I'd hate to get rid of my TX residency though, lol

[mossy]

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When I go in for my interview in November, I'll pose this question to the ASAC.

The shutdown is in a few days, you might want to make see how your scheduled interview will be impacted now. Especially if you are getting close to 37. They could postpone or delay it if the shutdown is extended.

I hear stories of really bad allergies at Glynco. The 0083 would put me there, but the 1801 would actually put me in Artesia. I would assume one is hot, the other is hotter. Any experience with either?

Been to Glynco twice. Humidity sucks, bugs suck, allergies suck, but you will have fun and make lifelong memories in that place. If you are single it's a absolute blast just be smart and always carry protection, don't want a surprise Glynco baby. If you are married or in a relationship, the rings tend to come off at Glynco. Must be something in the water.....I know of one guy who ended up getting divorced because of his time there I'm sure there are many more.

[Rogue187]

I've been to both Brunswick/Glynco and Artesia.

Both have it's good and bad.

Glynco you got bugs/sand gnats/sand fleas, allergies, humidity, and heat unless you go during winter then you get cold and frost but that warms up to normal temps. Bad tasting water also. It's hard water there. Paper Mill gives the place a special scent during the times it is in use. The local girls will throw themselves at you because that is an exit from there. When I was there our class coordinator/ Health Unit warned our class that Brunswick the town has a very high incidence of STD's. So watch out. If you go to Glynco eats lots of garlic or take garlic pills the bugs hate that it comes out your pores.

Artesia you have heat, sand storms, wind, dry desert heat, dust storms, bad water also. Not so bad on humidity. Hard water also. Smells a bit because Artesia used to be an oil refinery town. There is still the plant there. It's close to nothing really. If you go there try your best to bring a car. I drove from the SF Bay Area there and enjoyed myself by visiting places. The local girls are nice but Artesia is an impoverished area. So you will be able to meet someone but know you would be the plane ticket out of there for them.

The staffs at both places are very professional and provide good training depending who the training staff is. Many instructors there are detailed from their agencies. Some are staff.

I was detailed staff from my location to the FLETC's. Taught at both locations. Each has it own unique quirks.

[Romeo_alpha01]

I've been to both Brunswick/Glynco and Artesia.

Both have it's good and bad.

Glynco you got bugs/sand gnats/sand fleas, allergies, humidity, and heat unless you go during winter then you get cold and frost but that warms up to normal temps. Bad tasting water also. It's hard water there. Paper Mill gives the place a special scent during the times it is in use. The local girls will throw themselves at you because that is an exit from there. When I was there our class coordinator/ Health Unit warned our class that Brunswick the town has a very high incidence of STD's. So watch out. If you go to Glynco eats lots of garlic or take garlic pills the bugs hate that it comes out your pores.

Artesia you have heat, sand storms, wind, dry desert heat, dust storms, bad water also. Not so bad on humidity. Hard water also. Smells a bit because Artesia used to be an oil refinery town. There is still the plant there. It's close to nothing really. If you go there try your best to bring a car. I drove from the SF Bay Area there and enjoyed myself by visiting places. The local girls are nice but Artesia is an impoverished area. So you will be able to meet someone but know you would be the plane ticket out of there for them.

The staffs at both places are very professional and provide good training depending who the training staff is. Many instructors there are detailed from their agencies. Some are staff.

I was detailed staff from my location to the FLETC's. Taught at both locations. Each has it own unique quirks.

Good info on both FLETCs. Definitely will be staying clear of anything extracurricular if I get the job offer.

As far as bringing in vehicles, is the policy universal across agencies or does each agency have specifics on who and what can be brought in? I'd love to drive my car rather than depend on public transportation. I read that Artesia has a local dealer that does rent out cars over the weekends if you need to head out for errands or whatnot.

Any experience with the FAA Tech Center in NJ?

[caliprep]

Curious for you Fed LE guys on here:

I'm going through the hiring process with a few agencies. While this is happening, my lease is up and I'll be attempting to either stay in the complex I'm currently living, or find a place that does a month to month for relatively cheap.

Hypothetically, let's say I renew my lease in November, and get an EOD date during my lease. Would I have the same protection to break a lease to do training and transfer to whatever FO I am assigned to? Or would I have to eat the remainder of lease whether I am physically living at the location or not?

One of the agencies I applied to does cover relocation fees while the other does not. Neither has confirmed whether a lease can be broken without repercussions.

Input appreciated. Thanks folks.

No...SCRA applies to only active/reserve military members (who are activated.)

EODing for a federal civilian agency does not equate to being activated on military title 10 orders...Two completely different things. Which means, you probably can't break your lease and you most definitely can't get the SCRA interest protection on your debt.

Current FED and prior service member here.

[caliprep]

Didn't think of doing BOP now that you mention it. Looking at the USAJOBs listing it's a 0007 series job. Without saying much I'm in the running for 1801 series and 0083 series. The 1801 recently got LEAP benefits so I'm really gunning for this spot. The 0083 spot would put me in DC Metro area but does not have a clock.



I'm honestly interested more for the training that comes with the job. Both series I applied for isn't glamorous by most of those who are looking at the series to become 1811s, but the experience is something I desire over the benefits.

I hear stories of really bad allergies at Glynco. The 0083 would put me there, but the 1801 would actually put me in Artesia. I would assume one is hot, the other is hotter. Any experience with either?



When I go in for my interview in November, I'll pose this question to the ASAC.



USBP is pretty low on my list for a few reasons, lol. But I'll consider it now that you mention the age restriction going up. When I checked months back it was still 37 from how I read both postings.

Is OFO just a standard officer or is it something more specific? When I glossed over the posting a few month back it required some sort of degree. The degree I possess didn't seem to be acceptable at the time I read the requirements.

Did you get hired with FAMs? Thats the only 1801 series that attends Artesia from what I know.

OFO = Office of Field Operations and they're the ones stationed in all ports of entries. And no, they do not require a degree.

General rule of thumb for getting into federal law enforcement....Whether its 1801, 0083, or 1811 (criminal investigators), make sure its 6c covered. I'd stray away from the DoD/VA police gigs, as they're not covered and only go up to a certain GS level...Usually 8 and below.