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  • #16
    Desert Dan
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 3

    Okay, just so I have this straight, an honorably retired CA LEO whose agency authorizes retired concealed carry can carry just about anywhere, except where posted. And of course, an HR218 is allowed in all the other states, etc.

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    • #17
      RickD427
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2007
      • 9258

      Originally posted by Desert Dan
      Okay, just so I have this straight, an honorably retired CA LEO whose agency authorizes retired concealed carry can carry just about anywhere, except where posted. And of course, an HR218 is allowed in all the other states, etc.
      Not quite.

      1) There is no requirement that the agency authorize concealed carry for their retirees. All that is required is that the retiree: 1) Have possessed statutory powers of arrest or apprehension during their service. 2) Meet the LEOSA standards for retirement, 3) Possess the required identification, and 4) Have completed a qualification course within 12 months. But also note that if the agency wishes to deny their retirees the ability to carry under LEOSA, they can indirectly do so by declining to issue a qualifying ID card.

      2) LEOSA does not permit carry in places where state or local law prohibits carry on government property and where such law(s) make it illegal to carry on private property when prohibited by the owner (refer to 18USC926C).

      3) There is no requirement in the LEOSA that any such locations be posted, and LEOSA gives no special treatment to location that are posted, but outside of the two conditions cited above.
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      • #18
        Tyke8319
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Nov 2013
        • 2105

        By policy, my dept requires recertification/qualification every 4 years. However, to carry in all 50 we must meet the HR216 qualifications annually.
        And I will tell you, there are a few states and/or locations that will not recognize HR216 and you could be in jeopardy if you carry in those locations...New York City comes to mind. I sort of doubt the average cop would raise a stink, but if you were to get into a "situation" it might not go well.
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        So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
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        • #19
          TrailerparkTrash
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 4249

          Originally posted by Tyke8319
          By policy, my dept requires recertification/qualification every 4 years. However, to carry in all 50 we must meet the HR216 qualifications annually.
          And I will tell you, there are a few states and/or locations that will not recognize HR216 and you could be in jeopardy if you carry in those locations...New York City comes to mind. I sort of doubt the average cop would raise a stink, but if you were to get into a "situation" it might not go well.
          There was much confusion several years back, but today New York City is good to go if you meet ALL of the requirements of HR218. Even New York City says so...

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          • #20
            Hornetsnest
            Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 211

            Court of Appeals Finds for FLEOA, NJ FOP in LEOSA Case

            This week, the Third Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favor of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association (FLEOA) and the New Jersey Lodge of the Fraternal Order of Police (NJ FOP) in a case surrounding the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act (LEOSA). As relevant here, LEOSA allows qualifi


            FLEOA and NJ FOP argued that LEOSA preempts state law under the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution. Therefore, the additional burdens imposed by the state of New Jersey on retired law enforcement officers were improper to the extent that they conflicted with the federal requirements.

            In June 2022, a district court ruled in FLEOA and NJ FOP?s favor; however, the state appealed the decision to the appellate court.

            In a decision released Wednesday, February 14, the appellate court affirmed the lower court?s ruling.

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