CCW permit format question

[TTT]

Normally I would go to my IA for permit questions, but in this case that does not really work. I went to pick up my permit today and what was presented to me was a 8.5 inch x 11 inch sheet of printer paper with what I presume was all the relevant permit info printed on it. So, to the LEOs here, is this normal? Will a permit printed on printer paper like this be regarded as suspicious?

[L-2]

Let's see what was provided via a posted picture.
Any confidential info can be blurred out, covered, etc.

What city/county issued the paperwork.

We're only assuming this is in California.
You apparently picked up the permit in person. You were there and probably should or could have asked right then. If you merely post your city or county in your profile, much of the pertinent info would have already been provided to us here on Calguns.net.

Some cities/counties will issue a card, instead of or in addition to California's large permit document, but again, only you know what you've got in your hand.

http://www.flyingtigerantiques.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/1980sacrcountcalhondepsherconcarperm82obv.jpg

Here's a pic of a CCW permit from ~42 years ago, but it wasn't 8.5" x 11". Let's see what you've been given.

[9Cal_OC]

What he said ^^

It’s helpful to indicate who your issuing agency is and/or post in those existing threads.

[esy]

The CCW forum here is also a good resource. Have you tried looking there for similar experiences?

[Quiet]

Applicable CA laws...

Penal Code 26175
(a)(1) Applications for licenses and applications for amendments to licenses under this article shall be uniform throughout the state, upon forms to be prescribed by the Attorney General.
(2) The Attorney General shall convene a committee composed of one representative of the California State Sheriffs? Association, one representative of the California Police Chiefs Association, and one representative of the Department of Justice to review, and, as deemed appropriate, revise the standard application form for licenses. The committee shall meet for this purpose if two of the committee?s members deem that necessary.
(3)(A) The Attorney General shall develop a uniform license that may be used as indicia of proof of licensure throughout the state.
(B) The Attorney General shall approve the use of licenses issued by local agencies that contain all the information required in subdivision (i), including a recent photograph of the applicant, and are deemed to be in substantial compliance with standards developed by the committee described in subparagraph (C), if developed, as they relate to the physical dimensions and general appearance of the licenses. The Attorney General shall retain exemplars of approved licenses and shall maintain a list of agencies issuing local licenses. Approved licenses may be used as indicia of proof of licensure under this chapter in lieu of the uniform license developed by the Attorney General.
(C) A committee composed of two representatives of the California State Sheriffs? Association, two representatives of the California Police Chiefs Association, and one representative of the Department of Justice shall convene to review and revise, as the committee deems appropriate, the design standard for licenses issued by local agencies that may be used as indicia of proof of licensure throughout the state, provided that the design standard meets the requirements of subparagraph (B). The committee shall meet for this purpose if two of the committee?s members deem it necessary.
(i) Any license issued upon the application shall set forth the licensee?s name, occupation, residence and business address, the licensee?s age, height, weight, color of eyes and hair, and the reason for desiring a license to carry the weapon, and shall, in addition, contain a description of the weapon or weapons authorized to be carried, giving the name of the manufacturer, the serial number, and the caliber. The license issued to the licensee may be laminated.

[TTT]

Got some feedback from a retired LEO friend, I'm all squared-away. Thank you for the responses!

[1911su16b870]

Pre NYSRPA, CA CCWs were just a flimsy paper...



I don't know what agencies will do moving forward, a laminated card would be nicer.

[mitch1]

Just received my CCW here in Riverside county, looks very similar to a drivers license

[DJD100]

In San Mateo CA, the SMSO is handing out both a laminated CC sized permit, and a 8.5 X 11 printed piece of paper, with instructions to carry both.

[Sennasixty8]

how does SM county expect folks to carry 8.5x11 forms around without folding them up? smh

[L-2]

Perhaps the 8.5"x11" version can be folded up.

Perhaps the 8.5"x11" version can be photocopied as a large piece of paper can be worn out or damaged over a 2-year period.

Perhaps the photocopy can be reduced in size.

If a laminated credit-card version and a large, letter-sized version are provided, why carry both. Suggestion for Post 9, post the exact wording of the instructions from San Mateo County.

Perhaps a digital photo of the permit(s) can be carried on one's cell phone.

Also, don't bother asking the IA, just do what is appropriate, in the spirit of the law.

[TTT]

how does SM county expect folks to carry 8.5x11 forms around without folding them up? smh

I fold mine up. Not much else can be done. For me the biggest problem is that they look like a fake someone printed up at home. Hopefully if I ever have to show it the officer will be aware that some departments are doing this, otherwise...

[DJD100]

I fold mine up. Not much else can be done. For me the biggest problem is that they look like a fake someone printed up at home. Hopefully if I ever have to show it the officer will be aware that some departments are doing this, otherwise...

Yes, folded is what I do of course, along with the laminated CC sized card, plus electronic versions of both in my phone.

Just following orders etc...

[NorCalBusa]

I keep a good image of both the paper and credit card sized permit in my iPhone. Sure, it won't take the place of something in hand- but can certainly be quickly verified.

[bk23103]

http://www.flyingtigerantiques.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/1980sacrcountcalhondepsherconcarperm82obv.jpg

Here's a pic of a CCW permit from ~42 years ago, but it wasn't 8.5" x 11". Let's see what you've been given.

That's cool! The man had a street named after him.