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  • #16
    cortayack
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 1758

    Originally posted by Unit74
    And to answer your question about the M/C's, I will requote from a PM I sent to another member regarding the inability to enforce ANY air quality standards against bikes after a large enforcement check point we conducted in San Diego County:



    And with the new budget issues, I don't foresee any new inspection stations coming online anytime soon.

    Good, what a waste of time and money to do smog checks on M/Cs......

    Back to the point, If your son isn't getting a ticket, I wouldn't worry about it. I believe someone said it "LEOs most likely see he is a good guy and let him go with a warning"......LEO could've give him a ticket for it and don't. Feel luckly because I've gotten fixit tickets for my bike for much less. So either change the exhaust or not!

    Now with M/Cs, I have never been pulled over for a loud exhaust (not extremely loud, or anything) but have been pulled over for other very minor fixit tickets... I've seen days where the CHP is pulling over every bike they can, including me, then next week no CHP in the area.... It must of been special bike enforement week, or something.....

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    • #17
      Ron-Solo
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      • Jan 2009
      • 8581

      Keep your car stock and in good condition and you won't have to worry about stops like that.

      Always thought it was strange that people pay good money for a car that was designed by people with training and experience and then trust someone who barely finished high school to modify it so they defeat many of the safety features.
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      • #18
        SVT-40
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2008
        • 12918

        Originally posted by pat038536
        I guess you missed the part about factory original ie: as originally equipped by the manufacturer.

        'Excessive noise' is completely subjective and subject to officer's discretion. Domestic vehicles are not held to the same standard as imports. Example: late model Mustang with aftermarket exhaust vs. Civic with huge 'fart pipe'.

        btw.. I l don't like the 'fart pipe', I think they are stupid, but that isn't the point.
        So again how is that "profiling" ........
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        • #19
          ke6guj
          Moderator
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2003
          • 23725

          Originally posted by Fjold
          Jim, Your son's car may not be loud when he drives it around where you can hear it but driven differently they can be a lot louder. I have the same issue with my truck exhaust, I'm very careful when I drive around police in it. If he's been pulled over six times for the same problem maybe he should address it.
          yup, how you operate the loud pedal can make a big difference. I had a G60 Corrado that had a very free flowing exhaust; a Hi-flow cat, a cat-back system with a minimal muffler and a proper exhaust tip (no fart can). I could set off car alarms almost at will with it when I wanted to, but never got pulled over because of the noise. Around town, I'd try to keep the revs low by staying in a high gear, and when around 5-0, upshift again, and baby the throttle. Nice and quiet that way
          Jack



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          • #20
            forgiven
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2008
            • 5214

            The japanese cars don't bug me too much, as long as they stay out from underneath my Suburban. I bleed American, but I got to say that when those Harleys come by me its like a knife has been stuck into my ear. Makes me want to grab my gun and get even.

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            • #21
              BillCA
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2005
              • 3821

              Keep your car stock and in good condition and you won't have to worry about stops like that.
              Not always.

              A former co-worker restored an old Triumph TR-3 and obtained an OEM exhaust system. CHP was always telling him it was too loud, but that's just the way they were.

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              • #22
                TenSeven
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2007
                • 1272

                The CHP is... well... what I like to call "an unto themselves" organization. They do things the way they do that I would never have done.

                I have several oddball in-person stories (not all of them funny) regarding the CHP as a former LEO and another as a private citizen after my retirement.

                They do what they do, for whatever reason...

                Notice one thing about the CHP... Did you ever wonder why the front doors of their cars are painted white while the rear doors are painted black?





                The answer is simple:


                That way they know what door to get into.




                I know, I know, an ancient joke but it is still funny





                That being said, CHP Officers make traffic stops on CA freeways, which I found to be terrifying under the best of circumstances the very very few times I did the same.

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                • #23
                  BigJim_610
                  Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 261

                  Thanks

                  For all the civil replies. As luck may have it my son got stopped again. This is the third time by the SO. He had (asked) to open his hood again. And this time he was cited for the rear resanotor. The funny thing about this is he was cited and the deputy said "I can hear that its to loud."
                  Curious how he does that.

                  My son said he will fight the ticket.

                  I am going home and drilling the mufflers out of my bike, I hear you can gain hoursepower.

                  Originally posted by TenSeven
                  The CHP is... well... what I like to call "an unto themselves" organization. They do things the way they do that I would never have done.

                  I have several oddball in-person stories (not all of them funny) regarding the CHP as a former LEO and another as a private citizen after my retirement.

                  They do what they do, for whatever reason...

                  Notice one thing about the CHP... Did you ever wonder why the front doors of their cars are painted white while the rear doors are painted black?





                  The answer is simple:


                  That way they know what door to get into.




                  I know, I know, an ancient joke but it is still funny





                  That being said, CHP Officers make traffic stops on CA freeways, which I found to be terrifying under the best of circumstances the very very few times I did the same.

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                  • #24
                    ed bernay
                    Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 150

                    if the cop tells you to open the hood, can't you tell him "no - I do not consent to this search"? if he gives you a ticket for loud mufflers, can't you challenge the ticket in court by asking him to produce the decibel reader and decibel report he used to make the stop in the first place?

                    just wondering since I don't live in Kali - thank goodness

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                    • #25
                      ed bernay
                      Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 150

                      nevermind. I saw the other thread

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                      • #26
                        pat038536
                        Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 499

                        Originally posted by SVT-40
                        So again how is that "profiling" ........
                        Not to be picking on anyone but.. 'they' see a Honda or Toyota or something like this.. (import rice)


                        or this (domestic rice)


                        with a driver that is: Male, 18-25 and looks like a 'street-racer' and makes the assumption that he is a 'street racer' and pull him over.

                        Rice-Boy is a stereotype. The typical Rice-Boy can be identified by his car, or rather what he does to it. Generally, Rice-Boy will start out with a car that was not meant to go fast (typically a Honda Civic), and attempt to "fix it up," usually consisting of aftermarket rims, lowering springs and an aftermarket exhaust system with a large exhaust tip. Most Rice-Boy cars (or "Rice Rockets") have the usual complement of stickers proudly displaying features that the car might or might not have, most notably, the Honda VTEC sticker from the later model Preludes, and the plaques from the later model Integras. Rice-Boys do not exclusively drive Japanese cars. There are quite a few fake Mustang '5.0's and Camaro Z28's out there, as well as quite a few strange looking Neons.
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                        • #27
                          Unit74
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 2359

                          Originally posted by ed bernay
                          if the cop tells you to open the hood, can't you tell him "no - I do not consent to this search"?
                          You are required to submit to an inspection of your vehicle. It's not a search and is addressed in the vehicle code.....

                          If you choose not to open your hood, and the officer wants to, your car can be impounded for inspection.

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                          • #28
                            SkyStorm82
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 1745

                            Originally posted by TenSeven
                            Notice one thing about the CHP... Did you ever wonder why the front doors of their cars are painted white while the rear doors are painted black?





                            The answer is simple:


                            That way they know what door to get into.
                            LOL....I do know that some of them even transport prisoners in the front seat next to them.
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                            • #29
                              scr83jp
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 678

                              Originally posted by Fjold
                              Jim, Your son's car may not be loud when he drives it around where you can hear it but driven differently they can be a lot louder. I have the same issue with my truck exhaust, I'm very careful when I drive around police in it. If he's been pulled over six times for the same problem maybe he should address it.
                              Get the badge # of the officer the location,date and time then call in a complaint to his sgt or commander,he will hear about it,it's known as harassment. I know the drill I was in le for 38 years.

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                              • #30
                                Fire in the Hole
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1563

                                Originally posted by scr83jp
                                Get the badge # of the officer the location,date and time then call in a complaint to his sgt or commander,he will hear about it,it's known as harassment. I know the drill I was in le for 38 years.
                                I did not read that it was the same Officer six different times, the same LE Dept. six different times, or the same county six different times. Just that he had been pulled over six different times.

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