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  • Hunter4life1990
    Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 328

    any LEO EOD on here?

    what is the official leagality of tannerite in california? if it is legal then is there any problem using it on blm land?
    "Liberals hate America, they hate "flag-wavers," they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam (post 9/11). Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now."

    "If gays can't change, why do liberals think child molesters can?"

    Originally posted by AJAX22
    Its the liberal fallacy.... "All men are equal, except for me, cause I know what is good for you better than you do."
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    Hunter4life1990
    Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 328

    btt
    "Liberals hate America, they hate "flag-wavers," they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam (post 9/11). Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now."

    "If gays can't change, why do liberals think child molesters can?"

    Originally posted by AJAX22
    Its the liberal fallacy.... "All men are equal, except for me, cause I know what is good for you better than you do."

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    • #3
      Turbinator
      Administrator
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 11934

      Buddy, no need to BTT your thread 1 hour later after posting your initial question.

      As far as I know, Tannerite has been used on BLM land, however I do not know specifically in writing where it states it is legal.

      My impression is that if it were not legal, we would have heard something about it already.

      Turby

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      • #4
        Hunter4life1990
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 328

        sorry turby just impatient lol.but thanks
        "Liberals hate America, they hate "flag-wavers," they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam (post 9/11). Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now."

        "If gays can't change, why do liberals think child molesters can?"

        Originally posted by AJAX22
        Its the liberal fallacy.... "All men are equal, except for me, cause I know what is good for you better than you do."

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        • #5
          Jonathan Doe

          One of my old partners, now a EOD person, responded to a location where Tannerite ws found. If it is harmless substance, he wouldn't have responded.

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          • #6
            tyrist
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 4564

            It's very questionable and I think it matters whether the container it is in is sealed or not.

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            • #7
              Connor P Price
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 1897

              I hadn't ever even heard of it until this thread so i google'd it. According to www.tannerite.com its still 100% legal in all 50 states. Seems like some fun stuff, certainly not for the kiddies though. Although, I wouldn't consider them saying its legal as sound legal advice.
              Last edited by Connor P Price; 07-27-2009, 4:00 PM.
              Originally posted by wildhawker
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              • #8
                ke6guj
                Moderator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Nov 2003
                • 23725

                heck, even The Sportman Guide sells a "tannerite" mixture and doesn't flag it as "no sales to CA" in the latest flyer. But as bwiese? has mentioned, just because they will sell it to you doesn't make it legal.
                Jack



                Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                • #9
                  tyrist
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 4564

                  Since the substance explodes by chemical reaction it cannot be placed into a sealed container. Dry ice and water are legal until you seal them inside of a bottle...then it's a felony.

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                  • #10
                    1911su16b870
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 7654

                    Binary explosives are still off the radar in the CA PC, do not know how BATF regulates it.

                    The whole point of binaries are each component is relatively harmless until mixed and after a threshold energy is applied...BOOM
                    "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

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                    • #11
                      1911su16b870
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 7654

                      Originally posted by tyrist
                      Since the substance explodes by chemical reaction it cannot be placed into a sealed container. Dry ice and water are legal until you seal them inside of a bottle...then it's a felony.
                      +1 a DA may classify it as a dangerous device, but we'll have to wait and see how that trial goes...
                      "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

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                      • #12
                        tyrist
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 4564

                        Originally posted by 1911su16b870
                        +1 a DA may classify it as a dangerous device, but we'll have to wait and see how that trial goes...
                        12301(a)(6) PC Any sealed device containing dry ice (CO2) or other chemically reactive substances assembled for the purpose of causing an explosion by a chemical reaction.

                        Once you place the tannerite in a sealed container you have committed a felony. While the substance is legal you can still make a destructive device from it.

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                        • #13
                          professorhard
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 2328

                          I have seen people use it at panoche without any problems.
                          God, grant me the serenity
                          To accept the things I cannot change;
                          The courage to change the things I can;
                          And the wisdom to know the difference.

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                          • #14
                            1911su16b870
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 7654

                            Originally posted by tyrist
                            ...While the substance is legal you can still make a destructive device from it.
                            Affirmed...

                            Tannerite is a binary explosive, when the two components are mixed it is an explosive (H&S C 12000). But it requires an input "threshold" energy in order to explode (to cause the rapid chemical reaction) irregardless of container (sealed, open or none).

                            If someone mixed it and made it into a weapon, then it is a dangerous device per PC12301.
                            "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

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                            Remington Nylon, 1911, HK, Ruger, Hudson H9 Armorer, just for fun!
                            I instruct it if you shoot it.

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