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  • MAC USMC
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 1020

    ASSISTING POLICE OFFICERS

    How many of you California citizen/gun owners would assist a police officer trying to make an arrest or one being jumped by gang-bangers!

    This is common practice in many rural locales where most folks have rifle racks in their trucks and intercede to help a police officer in difficulty. Not to imply a weapon is needed in each incident, but it is there for a reason. I would think most police officers support the 2nd Amendment as well as concealed carry with a CCW.

    Many cops have had citizens jump in and help them subdue a bad-guy even some who were armed. I had citizens help me on several occasions back a few years. Times and attitudes change over time -- so what would you do?
  • #2
    tyrist
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 4564

    I had a citizen help be wrestle down a drug crazed suspect. I was fighting with the guy on the ground and he was across the street. He came over and pinned the guy allowing me to get into a cuffing position. I was glad he helped since it probably saved me from some injuries.

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    • #3
      PatriotnMore
      Calguns Addict
      • Nov 2007
      • 7068

      I would definitely jump in and help an LEO if I saw he needed assistance, no questions.
      ‎"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
      --James Madison
      'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792

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      • #4
        SCMA-1
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 4291

        Absolutely. And I'd use any and everything at my disposal as a weapon (truck, 6 cell maglite, 7 lb fire extinguisher, 5" folder I carry, etc.) to assist them. But then I've been accused of going around looking for confrontation.

        SCMA-1
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        "Wherever I Walk,
        Everyone Is a Little Bit Safer Because I Am There.

        Wherever I Am,
        Anyone In Need Has a Friend.

        Whenever I Return Home,
        Everyone Is Happy I Am There."
        - "The Warrior Creed" ~ Robert L. Humphrey

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        • #5
          Crusader
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 2995

          I have before, and I'd do it again without hesitation. I have a great deal of respect for (most) police officers, and if/when I see they need help, I'm 100% willing.

          There was a show the other day on Spike that had a video clip of a cop wrestling with a suspect. The cop was very nearly getting his *** kicked, and almost had his gun taken out of its holster by the attacker. It was a very scary video to watch, and was even more disturbing by the fact that probably a dozen people walked right past the fight without offering assistance. During an interview with the cop afterwards, he said he couldn't blame the people for not jumping in. I sure did though.
          Last edited by Crusader; 07-20-2009, 11:50 AM.

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          • #6
            Jicko
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2005
            • 8774

            I'd loved to help....

            But the issue is.... when the PD's backups come, they may mistake you as one of the bad guys....
            - LL
            NRA Certified Firearm Instructor
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            • #7
              PatriotnMore
              Calguns Addict
              • Nov 2007
              • 7068

              Originally posted by Crusader
              During an interview with the cop afterwards, he said he couldn't blame the people for not jumping in. I sure did though.
              I saw another video where just the opposite happened. The LEO was not doing well and his gun was in question, a bystander came across the street, the cop yelled for help, and the two subdued the guy. The best thing the cop did when it got to that point was to ask for help.
              ‎"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
              --James Madison
              'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792

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              • #8
                Oregonish
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 610

                I'd help, if needed.

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                • #9
                  RolinThundr
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 1228

                  I'd jump right in- we expect them to be there for us, we should be there for them.
                  "The Gun is Civilization", Written By Marko Kloos

                  "The more corrupt the state, the more laws." -Tacitus, Publius Cornelius

                  "Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum."

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                  • #10
                    sugi942
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1149

                    I would even though I'm getting older... hahaha!

                    Makes me wonder about the N. Hollywood bank robbery scenario. Guys are shooting the place up, LEOs are going down, non-combatants are going down, you have your favorite rifle, it's a clear shot from your front yard fenceline behind cover... do you take the shot? Is it legal?

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                    • #11
                      sorensen440
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 8612

                      I would help if they needed it (same goes for any non leo's that need help)
                      "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                      • #12
                        command_liner
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 1186

                        My brother-in-law's friend spotted a guy beating on a Mass State Trooper.
                        The Trooper was a woman and was out of her league. So the friend drives
                        across the median at high speed, across the road, jumps out and goes at
                        it with the BG. He gets a few bumps and cuts, but saves the day.

                        But in this case corruption works the right way. He will never get a speeding ticket on a highway in Mass.
                        He has tried a few times, but no Trooper will sign a ticket.
                        Last edited by retired; 07-20-2009, 10:58 PM.
                        What about the 19th? Can the Commerce Clause be used to make it illegal for voting women to buy shoes from another state?

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                        • #13
                          frigginchi
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 1160

                          Be sure to identify yourself before you jump in

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                          • #14
                            gn3hz3ku1*
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 4276

                            Originally posted by sugi942
                            I would even though I'm getting older... hahaha!

                            Makes me wonder about the N. Hollywood bank robbery scenario. Guys are shooting the place up, LEOs are going down, non-combatants are going down, you have your favorite rifle, it's a clear shot from your front yard fenceline behind cover... do you take the shot? Is it legal?
                            no DA would press charges and no jury would convict you...
                            so yes double tap just in case you miss

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                            • #15
                              CAL.BAR
                              CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 5632

                              Originally posted by Jicko
                              I'd loved to help....

                              But the issue is.... when the PD's backups come, they may mistake you as one of the bad guys....
                              Exactly - how does that work? Back up comes around the corner to see you wrestling with the officer and another civilian. So they start beating/ tazing/shooting everything not in a uniform right?

                              Question for the offiers - what do you do in a situation like that where you get a call officer down or officer in need of backup and you turn the corner and see him wrestling with two civi's. Answer honestly now! What would you do?

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